WinXP and Me network peace anyone?

[shassouneh 0]

Hi everyone,

I have problems getting a Windows Me machine to connect to my windows Xp machine through a simple LAN. There are NO DOMAINS or anything funky like that. The machine refuses to connect to my workgroup! For some reason it thinks the workgroup is "not available" even though my windowsXp machine connects to his machine effortlessly! HELP!

 

thanx.

 

PS: I'm running my NETBOS over TCP/IP as clutch has suggested!

[shassouneh 0]

I tried all of that already, none of it helped! :-( thanx for the reply though. :-)

[shassouneh 0]

Yes, it pings just fine. results shown below:

 

 

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping -a 127.0.0.1

 

Pinging localhost [127.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:

 

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

 

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

[shassouneh 0]

Please bear with me here. I am no networking expert. Here is what ipconfig /all returns:

 

 

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fallasteeni

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

 

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

 

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink III ISAPNP Ethernet A

dapter (Generic 3C509b)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-97-3B-7C-2D

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.4.116

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.2

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.70.127.127

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:21:2

8 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:21:28

AM

 

 

As you can see I do NOT see any specific machine IPs but my own's. HOWEVER, I have no problem connectiong to other machines on the netowrk (apart from it taking literally forever!). Its the WIndows ME machine that fails to recognize the workgroup that I'm on. The workgroup's name is pearljamrox btw.

[shassouneh 0]

Oddly enough:

A.) NETBIOS IS enabled over TCP/IP

B.) My computer is configured to use DHCP/dynamic IPs, so it must be the college ISP! (I'm in a college dorm LAN).

[shassouneh 0]

Ok, I'll do that. I just un-installed all protocols/service except TCP/IP and i gotta restart before I can re-install them. I thought maybe If i re-build my network connection it may help or something!

I'll try it as soon as i restart. I'l let you know of what happens!

[shassouneh 0]

This is messed up! Now it makes no mention of the status of NetBios over TCP/IP!

 

This is what ipconfig /all returns:

 

Windows IP Configuration

 

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fallasteeni

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

 

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

 

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink III ISAPNP Ethernet A

dapter (Generic 3C509b)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-97-3B-7C-2D

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.4.116

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.2

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.70.127.127

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:19:2

7 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:19:27

AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

HEEEELP!

[shassouneh 0]

Yes, File and Printer sharng IS installed, and so is the client. Also, the Ping DOES work. The XP machine can see all other machines, but not vice versa!

[shassouneh 0]

OOOOKay, even more problems! Now the Me machine can see the XP machine but not the other wa around! Also, when playing an Mp3 file from the Xp machine, at some point the player suffers and hangs, causing the me system to almost crash!!!! HEEEELP!

Also, browsing the netwrok takes FOREVER on the XP machine.

[shassouneh 0]

Unfortunately I can't do that. I am browsing a college network consisting of multiple workgroups. The best I can really do is get information from my machine, and one other windows Me machine (the troublesome one) since it's my room mate's! So, the two machines on the "pearljamrox" workgroup are "kosher" so to speak. lol

By the way, the XP machine can now "see" the other machine, but if it attempts to connect ot it it returns an error message saying i do not have persmission or the "server hasn't been started"! I'm just as pissed at you and i need a good night's sleep which i can't have if this problem doesn't get fixed!

[shassouneh 0]

No no no! you got me allwrong. "kosher" was a figure of speech. What i CAN do is get you the ipconfig /all on both machines that are under the "pearljamrox" WORKGROUP. Is that ok?

 

Oh by the way, so you have MSN/AOL/ICQ/Y! etc... this is getting intoa conversation, so it'll be better if we can send IMs, don't you think?

[shassouneh 0]

Here is all the data i can "legally" get (lol):

 

Windows XP machine:

 

this is what ipconfig /all returns:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

 

Windows IP Configuration

 

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fallasteeni

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

 

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

 

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink III ISAPNP Ethernet A

dapter (Generic 3C509b)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-97-3B-7C-2D

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.4.116

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.2

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.70.127.127

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:19:2

7 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:19:27

AM

 

 

Windows Me:

 

this is what winipcfg returns:

 

IP Address: 10.10.1.173

Subnet Mask: 255.255.0.0

Default gateway: 10.10.0.1

Adapter Address: 00-50-8B-AC-E3-3B

[shassouneh 0]

so do you have AOL/ICQ/Y!/MSN/etc... ???

[shassouneh 0]

Ok, dude. here's the data

 

Windows ME machine:

 

Windows IP Configuration

 

Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Mark.OEMWorkgroup

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 204.71.16.211

Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No

NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : Yes

 

0 Ethernet adapter :

 

Description . . . . . . . . : Compaq 10_100 MiniPCI Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-50-8B-AC-E3-3B

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 10.10.1.73

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . : 10.10.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.2

Primary WINS Server . . . . :

Secondary WINS Server . . . :

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 09 28 01 9:57:22 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 09 29 01 9:57:22 AM

 

 

 

Windows XP machine:

 

Windows IP Configuration

 

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fallasteeni

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

 

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

 

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink III ISAPNP Ethernet A

dapter (Generic 3C509b)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-97-3B-7C-2D

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.4.116

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.0.2

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.70.127.127

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:19:2

7 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:19:27

AM

 

 

Hope any of this helps

[shassouneh 0]

yes, same workgroup. Currently pinging....

[shassouneh 0]

Windows XP machine pinging windows ME machine:

 

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 10.10.1.173

 

Pinging 10.10.1.173 with 32 bytes of data:

 

Reply from 10.10.1.173: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128

Reply from 10.10.1.173: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 10.10.1.173: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 10.10.1.173: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=128

 

Ping statistics for 10.10.1.173:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 3ms, Average = 1ms

 

Windows Me machine pinging WIndows XP machine:

 

C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>ping 10.10.4.116

 

Pinging 10.10.4.116 with 32 bytes of data:

 

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

 

Ping statistics for 10.10.4.116:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

 

 

NOTE: even though Windows ME fails to ping the XP machine (as seen above), it CAN see the Windows Xp machine and communicate with it. HOWEVER, the windows XP machine fails to even connect to the Windows Me machine even though it recognizes its presence on the network! messed up, huh?

[shassouneh 0]

Quote:

Change it to "Use NetBIOS setting from DHCP Server" instead of "Enable NetBIOS over Tcp/IP"... on BOTH machines! AND, tick off the "Enable LMHOSTS lookup" checkbox too!

How do you do this in Windows Me? I've already done it in XP. I looked under TCP/Ip settings and they don't seem to have such an option there

[shassouneh 0]

I'm not sure how to actually drop the XP firewall. bear with me here! lol!

[clutch 1]

Why would you have someone disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP? That doesn't make any sense, as I thought he was looking for NetBIOS name resolutions, and he doesn't have an NT server hosting DHCP or WINS.

[shassouneh 0]

here are the pings from the WINDOWS ME machine:

 

C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>ping 10.10.0.2

 

Pinging 10.10.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

 

Reply from 10.10.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=255

Reply from 10.10.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=255

Reply from 10.10.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=255

Reply from 10.10.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=255

 

Ping statistics for 10.10.0.2:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

 

 

C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>ping 204.70.127.127

 

Pinging 204.70.127.127 with 32 bytes of data:

 

Reply from 204.70.127.127: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=251

Reply from 204.70.127.127: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=251

Reply from 204.70.127.127: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=251

Reply from 204.70.127.127: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=251

 

Ping statistics for 204.70.127.127:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 27ms, Maximum = 42ms, Average = 34ms

 

C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>ping 10.10.0.1

 

Pinging 10.10.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

 

Reply from 10.10.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64

Reply from 10.10.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64

Reply from 10.10.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64

Reply from 10.10.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=64

 

Ping statistics for 10.10.0.1:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

[shassouneh 0]

Ok, went into computer management / services + Applications. All it does is lists a set of running services and processes. the firewall service is not clearly labelled. any ideas?

[shassouneh 0]

Ok firewall is now down. trying to network...

[shassouneh 0]

Dear Clutch and AleecStar, Especially AleecStar. Thank you soooo mcuh for helping me! I owe you PLENTY! It was that d%^$%&^^% firewall. With it down the network both WORKS and has great performance!!!!

I really REALLY appreciate it dude. I owe ya BIG TIME!

[shassouneh 0]

hmm, we got another problem here! When playing an Mp3 file from the Xp machine (directly from the network, NOT copying it first), the file gets stuck at some point. Different files get stuck at different places. Any ideas/tips/hints/solutions ANYONE?

[shassouneh 0]

Yes we certainly did, but please read my previous post! There's that small issue that needs to be fixed! It really bugs me! of coarse I can work around it by copying files first, but the beuty of a LAN network is "preview" before you decide to copy, and i really REALLY want to be able to just play those mp3s right off the network! Any ideas as to how i can solve this problem?