OldSpiceAP

I don't know if this is the same issue or not, but I had that happen with my SuSE 8.2 CD. I'd put in the 1st cd and boot up and it would just go to a black screen. I read the documentation (something I hate doing ) and found that the first disk is made in such a way as to be bootable on most all systems, but some have problems, so there is a different type of boot cd on disk 2. It worked then asked for disk one and the install went on through. The problem apparantly was that my drive was a cheapo laptop drive. It didn't work with the newer type bootable cd's. Try booting up with disk 2 - maybe it is like SuSE in that regard. Good luck - if its a video problem - you might try searching for a way to startup without vesa... especially since its an lcd screen.

Not always an open source equivalent? OK maybe - but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a program that doesn't have an open source equivalent, except for games. Check out this link: http://linuxshop.mu/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml I'd give that a shot just for starters if you are having trouble with finding a linux equivalent for a program.

For most common distro's of linux there are prepackaged version of wine available. For debian and yoper you can just open a konsole and type apt-get install wine and it will be installed. For SuSE, RedHat, Mandrake, etc.. you can go to www.winehq.org and click on download wine. They maintain packages for many different linux distros. Download the appropriate version for your linux distro. Usually it will be in a .rpm file. open a konsole and cd into the directory that the rpm file is located in. then type something akin to this example: rpm -ivh wine-20041019-SuSE82.i586.rpm or rpm -ivh wine-20040814-yourdistrohere.rpm then to run a program using wine open a konsole and cd into the directory containing the exe file. then type: wine yourprogram.exe where yourprogram is the name of the file you are trying to run. Remember - its case sensative!

Downloading the mozilla suit from mozilla.org works - it has a web design program that works just fine. Much like frontpage.

I have the same problem with several games returning the desktop in an odd state. I couldn't tell you a good solution though, I've tried and tried to no avail - If anyone has a good solution or ugly hack or whatever, please help us out!

Yesterday I finally got tired of my Yoper linux distro, and dumped it in favor of SuSE 8.2 Pro - which was my first boxed distro. I upgraded to KDE 3.3, and got it all set up like I like it. Next was my games. I have successfully been playing Dialo II under wine for quite some time on yoper. I installed it via wine no problem, put my character back in the folder and loaded it up. No problems. But when I went to multi-player it had the wrong IP address. It said mine was 127.0.0.2 when it really is 192.168.0.100 on my router. Internet works and all but wine gets the wrong IP address. I thought it might be a wine bug from the version I was using 20040814 so I tried 3 other versions with the same problem. Then I signed onto transgaming and redownloaded cedega - their new version of winex. Oddly enough it had the same problem. Thus I figured it was a problem with my network configuration. I looked in /etc/hosts and found a line that read something like: 127.0.0.2 linux.localhost.somethingeranother which was the IP address Diablo II was detecting. I deleted the line. After that I loaded up Diablo II again. This time when I went to "Other Multiplayer" and selected TCP/IP it seemed to lock up for a bit. Eventually it went into the screen where I can press either join game or host game but my mouse seemed frozen. Then I noticed it jump - it was just going so increadibly slowly that moving the mouse took many seconds - up to 30 before it would show up. With a little patience I was eventually able to click on Join Game and then the mouse unlocked and went smoothly. It picked up my IP address completely. I punched in the IP address of the hosted game on our local network. It worked perfectly, and the game ran smoothly afterwards. Before when it was detecting the wrong IP address it worked smoothly at the join/host game screen. But with that line deleted and the IP correctly detected it is almost unbearibly slow - but only at that screen - why? It was fine on Yoper. Its not limited to Diablo II either - it did the same thing in several other games. Since the same cedega and wine versions detected the right IP on Yoper I'd assume that the problem is my linux network setup. Any suggestions?

An idea occured to me a second ago (I'm at work so I cant test it till I get home). But the address it was reading was 127.0.0.2 which is close to 127.0.0.1 which is the address for the local loopback device. Is my machine configured as a standalone machine with that setup as the IP of my computer in case of no network - if so why does internet work, but wine not get it? Also can I change whether my machine is configured as a standalone or a network client somehow? Could I just change the line 127.0.0.2 linux.localhost.somethingeranother to 192.168.0.100 linux.localhost.somethingeranother and have it work ?? sort of cheating?

I have the same problem with several games returning the desktop in an odd state. I couldn't tell you a good solution though, I've tried and tried to no avail - If anyone has a good solution or ugly hack or whatever, please help us out!

I have the same problem with several games returning the desktop in an odd state. I couldn't tell you a good solution though, I've tried and tried to no avail - If anyone has a good solution or ugly hack or whatever, please help us out!

Here is what I do to make starcraft faster - it might work for Warcraft as well. I made a little script like this: cd .. cd .. cd .. cd usr/local/games/Starcraft wine StarCraft.exe Obvioulsy nothing interesting - and not even well written (I did this a long time ago but it works so I don't care) Then I named it starcraft chmod a+xrw starcraft copied it into /bin then I just start with a failsafe session type with no windowmanager and type starcraft after starting starcraft I press Ctrl+Alt+F4 and login from that terminal. Then I type renice +19 wineserver and then type exit to log off that server then Alt+F7 to get back to Starcraft and away I go. This also fixed any choppy sound. Also changing wine to use winealsa instead of wineoss fixed choppy sound in some games.

On a side note is there a way to run the network setup wizard on SuSE 8.2 again besides during install - maybe I did something wrong there.

It also works in regular wine - check out http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php?p=warcraft3 It has some good instructions. Look here too for how to get onto battle.net http://appdb.codeweavers.com/noteview.php?noteId=76&appId=897&versionId=1177 you can find a no-cd patch here: http://www.megagames.com/cracks/html/c905130_0.htm You should get the game running without too much difficulty. Blizzard games have a good track record on linux for some reason.

The map editor is a bit wierd anyways - even under windows - I recall having the same problem and then I figured something out that I was doing wrong - have you tried maps in windows? Did it work?

I solved the audio problem with my wine config file which isn't always included anymore - I compile it from source and choose to have it until winecfg is finished. ANyhoo- using the sound driver winealsa instead of wineoss worked beautifully - but the 3d got even slower.

certain versions of wine lhave this problem on and off. That version did the same thing for me with starcraft, but wine 20040814 worked perfectly - not even jerkily. If you can get over not wanting to pay for software - it works absolutely perfectly under CXOffice - multiplayer and all - though you have to enable IPX under linux first. ipx_interface -p 802.2 0x12345678 I think thats the command - google search it - it will tell you - there is a great complete linux starcraft howto that works well. just google "complete linux starcraft howto"

Directx is an API that allows for interaction with hardware without having to write softweare for each specific hardware type - it makes programming simpler. That said its buggy and lacking in features - even the latest D3D9 can be translated to OpenGL1.2 which is pretty old. The only time you would need directx in linux is for using windows applications - especially games - otherwise there is no need. Cedega (a comercial wine version) has an imnplementation of it as does wine itself. As for the DXDiagnostics tool - again - there is no need for it in linux.

I use SuSE 8.2 and the wpc54g card with ndiswrapper - where did it fail for you?

Wine is definately a good place to start, but there are comercial verisions of wine that could be useful as well. Codeweavers CrossoverOffice is a good program for applications such as Photoshop, Tables, Microshaft Office, Paintshop Pro, Winamp, Quicktime and Windows Media Player, as well as Internet Explorer. I wouldn't bother with any of these programs though as their Linux equivalants are either just as good or better. Gimp - replaces photoshop or paintshop. Intuative interface - great program. OpenOffice - a full office suit. I like its features better than MS office. Internet Explorer - Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla, Galeon, Konqueror, Opera, Lynks - they are all good but I prefer Firefox. Quicktime and Windows Media Player - Mplayer will play just about any media file ever. Winamp - XMMS - can ecen use winamp skins with a little tweaking. I've had good success with wine and CXOffice but I've found that the native programs are just as good and free - think of how much it costs to but a new version of MS office every couple years - Open Office is free - as are new versions of it. Plus it will read MS office files - even powerpoint presentations. If you are intersted in games and wine doesn't run them try transgamings Cedega - its another comercial version of wine that runs many windows only games. its only a few bucks and its worth it - I have had good successwith it as well. Here is what I use wine for: CXOffice - Starcraft - works perfectly Cedega - Diablo II - perfect. Wine - Age of Empires II - The Conquerors Expansion. Wine - neverwinter nights (but now I use the native version) I also occasionally use wine for Diablo II - both work fine. Good luck!

Sorry about no title - I forgot that and when I came back here to edit it it doesnt let me add a title. :-( Yesterday I finally got tired of my Yoper linux distro, and dumped it in favor of SuSE 8.2 Pro - which was my first boxed distro. I upgraded to KDE 3.3, and got it all set up like I like it. Next was my games. I have successfully been playing Dialo II under wine for quite some time on yoper. I installed it via wine no problem, put my character back in the folder and loaded it up. No problems. But when I went to multi-player it had the wrong IP address. It said mine was 127.0.0.2 when it really is 192.168.0.100 on my router. Internet works and all but wine gets the wrong IP address. I thought it might be a wine bug from the version I was using 20040814 so I tried 3 other versions with the same problem. Then I signed onto transgaming and redownloaded cedega - their new version of winex. Oddly enough it had the same problem. Thus I figured it was a problem with my network configuration. I looked in /etc/hosts and found a line that read something like: 127.0.0.2 linux.localhost.somethingeranother which was the IP address Diablo II was detecting. I deleted the line. After that I loaded up Diablo II again. This time when I went to "Other Multiplayer" and selected TCP/IP it seemed to lock up for a bit. Eventually it went into the screen where I can press either join game or host game but my mouse seemed frozen. Then I noticed it jump - it was just going so increadibly slowly that moving the mouse took many seconds - up to 30 before it would show up. With a little patience I was eventually able to click on Join Game and then the mouse unlocked and went smoothly. It picked up my IP address completely. I punched in the IP address of the hosted game on our local network. It worked perfectly, and the game ran smoothly afterwards. Before when it was detecting the wrong IP address it worked smoothly at the join/host game screen. But with that line deleted and the IP correctly detected it is almost unbearibly slow - but only at that screen - why? It was fine on Yoper. Its not limited to Diablo II either - it did the same thing in several other games. Any suggestions? [Edited by OldSpiceAP on 2004-11-29 12:03:55]

Hmm - from what I know, its only supported officially in the latest version of Alsa, but I'm not sure thats true entirely. I have to same card exactly, and it worked fine in Suse 8.2 (though the microphone didn't work) and also in an old version of Vector Linux. I use Yoper Linux now, and just like SuSE it detected it in set it up flawlessly. I have never run Fedora, but I've heard good things about its Hardware support. Something I don't know about is if hardware support is a Distro thing, a kernel thing, or what. I am not sure entirely. I've never known about it, but I'd assume it just depends what versions of certain drivers these distro's come with. That said I'm surprised it didn't work in Fedora. I'd suggest compiling it from source, though thats not that easy for a newb. I don't even like doing it for alsa - it never seems to work. It needs all sorts of things installed, and as such I've had to do all sorts of things just to get it to finish - not sure why I bothered since my sound was fine - maybe it was because cedega sound was choppy and I was hopeing it would fix itself. You may want to try typeing alsaconf in a konsole. This is a guided soundcard setup utility that is handy - when SuSE didn't detect my laptops soundcard - probing all legacy IRQ's did the trick (this is a part of the utility - its easy to use - don't worry). Thats my best suggestion besides trying a different distro. Good luck!

You might also try kopete - it has worked well for me. It connects to many including ymsngr - just like gaim does.

I had the same diffuculty posting on some sites (not this one) with firefox versions .8 and .9, but the issue has not returned since I updated to 1.0 PR. Its possible that whatever the problem was has been resolved. The problem also occured in the windows version of firefox and back in my windows days internet explorer used to do so as well, but less gracefully - when it crashed it usually took the whole computer with it. Try Firefox 1.0 PR - its been great for me - plus the installer works well.

I think what Viper is confused about is file extensions. He is used to executable files on Windows carrying the .exe extension. Most executable files in windows use this extension, but they can also use .bat and others. Linux does not normally run windows .exe files, but as Dapper said, a program called wine can often run them - www.winehq.org. Also, there are comercial verisons of wine such as Codeweavers Crossover Office - which runs windows apps well, and had a nice user interface. Transgamings winex/cedega version of wine can run many windows only games uner linux. Linux does not have any special executable file extension. Executible linux files may have an extension like .bin, .sh or have no extension at all. From the command line these can be run with ./nameoffile .

Hmmm.... Since you get to the boot-loader OK and can select Linux, then it sounds like the install at least went most of the way through. I've had problems (especially with deMudi) where it would think it was finished installing before it was and it would install a boot-loader and reboot without finishing the install (still don't know why). Resinstalling fixed the problem. Also -I have never used mandrake, but when you select Linux in the boot loader, does it come up with a splash screen - or does it scroll some text? If it scrolls text - can you tell us the last thing it displays before rebooting? If there is a splash screen - there is usually a key that you can press that will kill the splash screen and bring up the text loading screen. For me this has been both escape and F2. Anyhoo - telling the last thing the computer outputs could help us figure out what the problem is and how to fix it. I'm a newbi too - hang in there - its worth it.

Alright - let me first just apologize for the like of this post - in retrospect it isn't that helpful. Hopefully the next few lines are more clear. Here is my deal. I and many of my friends love the game Age of Empires II and its expansion. Using the latest CVS from transgaming's project Cedega (formerly known as winex) I was able to get the game running adequately in linux, with just a few minor font irritations. Nothing to stop the game from being fully playable. The problem here is this - AOEII uses directplay 6 for its multi-player support. For me and 8 other people this little game keeps windoze on our hard disks. We would all gladly wipe it away if we could just get multi-player working. I have searched the net for hours upon hours. At first it was disappointing. Both wine and cedega(winex) have minimal if any support for directplay. There was little talk of spurring its development, and no apparant project to complete its implementation. It seemed a wasted effort. Sad times. Then, when all seemed lost, I came across an intersting project. The DirectPlay Masquerading Module appeared to be the answer to my problems. Posts even reported using Age of Empires II with it with no problems - the exact game I wish to play. I eagerly downloaded it and attempted to compile it. Unfortunately this error appeared: Configure the kernel before compiling the module. Hmmm - seems straightforeward enough... but configure it for what? Readme files were no help. Then I noted on the website, that it was only for the 2.2 linux kernel. And I use a 2.4 kernel and a 2.6 kernel (choose at boot). I don't really want to have to add a 2.2 kernel to it too, as most every module I have isn't compiled for it and its a regression I don't want to deal with. The problem seems to arise with the diffence between the kernels use of ip_chains and ip_tables. And worse still, the project was dead. Still, hope remained - the authors last post noted that although it wasn't ported to the 2.4 kernel, doing so wouldn't be difficult. He wrote: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, somebody has ported one of the 2.2.x masquerading modules over to the 2.4.x iptables system. Or rather, finally I NOTICED. Anyway, with the new(?) ip_nat_ftp module out there to copy fro^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H inspire me, there's a slight possibility that the dplay module might get ported within the decade. ----------------------------------------------------------------- A little sarcasm there at the end but still, sounds easy right? Well, now I sure wish I knew a little about all those things and even more about programming. I'm pretty computer savy, and can write shell scripts with little though, (they are simple though), but my programming knowledge is uselessly limited. I am requesting anyone ANYONE with programming expirence to help me - I'd like this ported to the 2.4 kernel. If it would get AOE running multi-player I would be the happiest man alive, or close anyways. The other thing about it was that it apparantly worked behind a NAT which we are behind now and can't actually even connect to zone games or anything - but thats ok we just usually play on our lan. Still that would be really cool if it worked out of linux but not windoze. Now for the real questions! - Am I crazy in thinking this is the solution to getting mp working in aoeII? - Is there actually anyone with the knowledge - knowhow - ability - and freetime to actually do the port. - Would anyone out of the goodness of their hearts just take this up and do it. Thanks in advance to anyone who would help!!