okay how do you check the 3d mrks

And my duron 750@900

an obvious answer to an obious question you check you 3dmark score using 3dmark!

get it here: www.madonion.com

Theres a benchmarking program called 3DMark2000, and thats what we're referring to. I believe that http://www.the-ctrl-alt-del.com has it available to download. The company that makes it is putting out 3DMark2001, but that requires a bit more muscle to push around. So you'd get some humiliating scores.
The higher the better.
If you saw Inferno2000's score, you will drool.

Okay thanks i'll try it and see what i get

And do you all thin k napster should stay on because if you do Go to www.napster.com so you can fight with us to keep napster alive.

I'll be upgrading my case pretty soon.

Here's what I have now
http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/NEoutside.jpg

I'll be getting an Addtronics W8500(or an 8600 if I can so it'll have the locking door on the bezel).


Still, my 1.1 is hitting 1.5 ghz, but it's too damned hot for me to feel comfortable keeping it there.
maybe when I get the addtronics, I'll spring for a peltier and watercooling.

O'kay, 3DMark2000, standard tests, detonator 7.52 drivers running on 2K, I get 6003. With 3DMark2001, I get around 2500 - I forget what exactly.

Brian Frank, you mentioned about NAV and ZoneAlarm being installed, does that effect the scores? I have both running all the time too, as well as a few other things.

--Cynan.

[This message has been edited by Cynan (edited 18 March 2001).]

Let' see...

I did it one last time with 3dmark2000 before I uninstalled.

tweaked everything to have nothing running and MINIMAL services...


8129

sweet!

uninstalled 3dmark2000 and installed 3dmark2001.

Only got a score of 3185

Well, Cynan, looking at your specs, you probably dont have to worry, having a dual cpu setup. Norton does take some resources to run, and I ususally turn it off, but I leave ZA on. Im beginning to think that thats as big of a problem as I first thought, because my dad has a slightly slower pc than mine except he's got 2 7200RPM hard drives, and Im not sure if that contributes to his slight performance gain over mine. I really shouldnt worry, eventually the way nVidia's drivers are going, I should overtake him even with his 5.12 detonators. The best performance for me is 10.80. I'll snag the latest and greatest drivers as long as they dont have problems.

i got 2032

on your duron that is oclocked? I got 2261 on my old p3 500 with win xp. You should try tweaking some services and other stuff on your sys cause it should go higher than that.

Pimpin228, get Xteq X-Setup. Loads of tweaks, hidden features, also you can enable overclocking GF2's w/o extra programs. Works on a GF2 MX. 10.80 Det. right here.
My PIII 667 with only PC100 running at 100MHz (performance hit right there) 192MB of it, and a Voodoo 3 3000 AGP can hit 2100's just by tweaking, and its under Win2k.
My score on ME is closer to 3000's,
but my main rig as it stands now has hit 4621, see sig line: (for the zillionth time in this post)

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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@912MHz
384 MB SDRAM PC133
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100
Hercules Prophet II MX (core:196MHz ram:197MHz)
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Kiwi Orb Fan with additional CoolerMaster strapped onto one side
HDD cooler pulling air in
Dual slot fan to suck air out
Case fan to suck air out
Dual 80mm fans to blow on cards.

Hey..from now on, we need to specify what version of 3dmark we're using.

a 3000 in 2001 is really good
a 3000 in 2000 is really not as good.

OS WinXP 2446
Det 6.50 (hacked for 85 hz refresh) with coolbits reg tweak
the card is over clocked from 125/150 to 155/165 core/mem
3D Mark 2000
score 2261

hardware details below

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My System
Dell Demension XPS T500
Dual Boot
Windows Whistler Pro 2446
Windows Millennium Final Retail
PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan)
512 Megs Ram
Guillemot Maxi Gammer Cougar (TNT2 M64 w/ 32 Megs of RAM)
Matrox Millennium PCI (w/ 4 Megs of RAM for second monitor)
3Com Etherlink XL 10/100 Ethernet Card
2 x Abit Hot Rod Pro ATA-100 RAID Controlers
2 x 12.6 Gig Maxtor Hard Disks RAID 0 (for system)
1 76.3 Gig Maxtor Hard Disk (for storage)
40X LG CD Rom Drive
100 Mb Iomega Internal Zip Drive
MS Explorer Mouse
MS Natural Keyboard Pro

Good point Inferno2000, that would clear up alot.
My PIII system under Win2k 3dMark2000:2153
My Duron@912 " ":4627 highest score on default res.

Its fun to post your specs and scores, even if you know there's much better systems out there. :p

mine is 3991, celemine 667@1133, 640mb ram cas2, gf2mx. standard settings

so what do you all think bout the durons i like them

i think the duron has a lot of potential and great performance for the price, if i wasn't such a die-hard Intel fan, i'd switch from a Celemine to a Duron.

Duron vs. Celeron?

Duron all the way!

Normally I'd say bad things about VIA, but I haven't had problems with the KT133(a) and nvidia cards.

But those problems were only experienced(by me) on the KX133....my KT system works perfectly...

as far as performance goes, Duron. As far as quality (in my opinion), Celeron.

Okay new system specs now
dfi ak74 motherboard amd duron 750@848
thermal take super orb
128 megs pc 100 ram
ac 97 onboard sound
us robotics 56k modem
generic nic card
riva tnt 16m
pc dvd player
maxtor 8.08 harddrive
2 120mm fans
full tower case


and yes eddie i did get thermal grease i put it on first thing

Durons: cheap, fast, and overclockable.
Celerons: slower, not so fast, and overclockable.
Durons rule. ~90% of the Athlon performance and at insanely low prices to boot. Kinda like the GF2 MX. I love overclocking.

I'll stick with the PIII's in my PIII system and Durons in my Duron system. T-Birds are just a little too toasty for my comfort. Not saying i wouldnt go to the 1.2 GHz T-Bird, but Im not ready for that one yet.

My systems as they stand now:

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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@912MHz
448MB SDRAM PC133
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100 5400RPM
Hercules Prophet II MX (core:196MHz ram:197MHz)
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Kiwi Orb Fan
HDD cooler pulling air in
Dual slot fan to suck air out
Case fan to suck air out
Dual 80mm fans to blow on cards.
Win2k Pro

Pentium III 667
Tyan Trinity 400
256MB SDRAM PC100
Toshiba 6x DVD-ROM
Western Digital 17.2GB ATA66 5400RPM hdd
WD 2.5GB ATA33 4500RPM hdd
Voodoo3 3000AGP w/TV-Out
SB 16 OEM PCI
SB compatibleISA sound card
Realtek 10/100 NIC
HP 1280 17" monitor
MS Intellimouse optical
PC Concepts wave keyboard
3-way speakers
Win2k Pro/WinME

"To be or not to be, that is the question."

ya know what?
these 2 words will make my system offially one hell of a system(as soon as it's released.)


ColdForge AA-15 (in either black or clear anodization)