battle of the computers

Computer specs to see who has the better computer.
Soyo 5ema motherboard
amd 56-2 400mhz
92m of ram
tnt riva 16m video card.
creative 64m sound card
pc-dvd 5x
us robotics modem
sampo 14" monitor
maxtor 8.08 harddrive 5400rpm
300w ps
3 fans

I got my amd duron 750 in the mail today i just got to wait for the motherboard and i got a thermaltake fan.

MotherBoard - Abit VH6 Socket 370 (1 AMR, 1 AGP, 5 PCI, 1 ISA)
Fan/Cooling - (CPU) Alpha PEP66T 38cfm Heatsink/Fan
Processor(s) - Intel Celeron II 667@1133MHz
Hard Drive - Seagate 30GB 7200rpm IDE (Partitioned into three)
Memory - 640MB Total. Two Sticks 256MB, One Stick 128MB. SDRAM PC133 168pin DIMM (Generic)
Video Card - nVidia GeForce 2 MX 32MB AGP
Modem - Phoebe Micro 56K V.90 PCI
Sound Card - VIA Audio (OnBoard)
MPEG Decoder - Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus! PCI
Ethernet Adapter - RealTek 8029(AS) 10BaseT Ethernet Adapter
Removeable Storage - Mitsumi 3.5" Floppy Drive
DVD-ROM - Pioneer DVD-115 16x DVD ROM Drive IDE
CD-RW - Plextor Plexwriter 12x/10x/32x CD-RW Drive IDE
Extra Fan - Exhaust Fan (22cfm) Modded into top of case.
Operating System - Windows 2000 Professional 5.00.2195.1;SP1

Alright Pimpin228, when I joined up in January, there was this @$$ who was gloating about how great his system was, and as a result got a whole load of people on his case. Be ready for a bashing if you dont watch it, cause this other character got dissed bad.

You want specs, I know there are better systems out there, but as long as I can upgrade my systems, Im okay
Here are my specs
Main system:
Asus A7V
Duron 600@680 (6x113)
384 MB PC133 SDRAM
Maxtor 20.4 GB 5400RPM ATA100
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Voodoo 4 4500 AGP (overclocked to 176)
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3-port Firewire
D-Link DFE 530 TX NIC
Zip650 4/4/6 CD-RW USB
Zip100 USB
Memorex Maxx Scan USB
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17" monitor
Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
Logitech Deluxe (thats right a DELUXE) 104 keyboard
CoolerMaster Socket A HSF
Antec 80mm case fan
Antec 2 fan slot blower
Antec HDD cooler for sucking in air
300 Watt PS
all powered by Windows 2000

Test system:
Tyan Trinity 400
Pentium III 667
192 MB PC100 (Ive underclocked this system so I could OC my other)
Western Digital 17.2 GB 5400 RPM ATA66
Western Digital 2.5 GB 4500 RPM ATA33
Toshiba 6x DVD-ROM
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP with TV/S-video out (overclocke to 182 MHz in ME only)
SB 16 PCI OEM
Realtek 10/100 NIC
MS Intellimouse Optical
HP 1280 17" monitor
Generic 3-way speakers
PC concepts wave ergonomic keyboard (I really should get a different keyboard, cause it sucks for gaming)
Intel stock fan
Slot blower fan
250 Watt PS
running Win2k,WinME,Linux-Mandrake 7.1

I pity you, fool for the wrath this forum will bestow upon you. And the fact you dont have broadband. Sucker!

Brian, are you talking about that kid who asked: "Why's my system so dope?"?, he was a fag-lamer extraorinaire (spelling?)!

and Cody, you have 96MB ram, not 92MB.

Bingo.

Pentium III 933 (soon to become a 1GHz)
EPox 3SPA3-L 815EP motherboard
Enlight 7237 mid-tower case
512MB Micron PC133 CAS-2
Western Digital 40GB 7200 RPM ATA100
Pioneer 16x DVD-ROM
ATI Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO
AC'97 on-board sound (until I get a SB Live! Platinum)
LinkSys FastEthernet 10/100 NIC
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical
KDS Trinitron 17" monitor
Microsoft Internet Pro Keyboard
300 Watt PS
2 fans
Windows 2000 SP1

My System
Dell Demension XPS T500
Triple Boot
Windows 2000 Pro 2195
Windows Whistler Pro 2428
Windows Millennium Final Retail
PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan)
512 Megs Ram
Guillemot Maxi Gammer Cougar (TNT2 M64 w/ 32 Megs of RAM)
Matrox Millennium PCI (w/ 4 Megs of RAM for second monitor)
3Com Etherlink XL 10/100 Ethernet Card
2 x Abit Hot Rod Pro ATA-100 RAID Controlers
2 x 12.6 Gig Maxtor Hard Disks RAID 0 (for system)
1 76.3 Gig Maxtor Hard Disk (for storage)
40X LG CD Rom Drive
100 Mb Iomega Internal Zip Drive
MS Explorer Mouse
MS Natural Keyboard Pro
And not a single piece of software that I actually own

I see someone else using a Matrox Millenium for second monitor. COOL

Written on Win2000 using:
PII 300
Aopen AX6B
160mb RAM
Diamond Viper 770 32mb
Matrox Millenium2 2mb
SBLive! Value
20gb Seagate
6gb WDCaviar
1.2gb Seagate
Pioneer 32x CD-R (Slot)
Realtek RTL8029AS 10mbit
Dlink PnP 10mbit
MAG 15DLS 15"
Osborne MO117 17"

Using 100% Australian Made recyclable electrons

[This message has been edited by felix (edited 01 March 2001).]

System Configs

* W2K-1 (Main Workstation)

1. Windows 2000 Professional SP1
2. PIII 800e (8x100)
3. AOpen AX-34 Motherboard
4. 384MB PC-133 RAM (3x128MB@133MHz)
5. Hercules Prophet II GTS Pro
6. Soundblaster Live! MP3+
7. Intel Pro/100 Management Adapter
8. IBM 25GB ATA-33 5400RPM Hard Drive
9. Samsung SD-604 5/32X DVD-ROM
10. 1.44MB Floppy Drive
11. Radius 19" Monitor (Trinitron-based) .24-.25AG
12. MS Natural Pro Keyboard
13. MS Intellimouse Explorer
14. Altec Lansing ACS-33 Speakers
15. Generic Full Tower Case
16. PC Power and Cooling 350W ATX Power Supply


* NT-1 (Second Workstation)

1. Windows NT 4.0 SP6a
2. Celeron 300A@450
3. ASUS P3B-F
4. 128MB PC-100 RAM (1x128MB)
5. GeForce 256 SDR 32MB
6. Soundblaster AWE64 Value
7. Intel Pro/100 Management Adapter
8. 2 Western Digital ATA-33 4.3GB Hard Drives
9. HP 9110 CD-R/CD-RW Drive
10. 1.44MB Floppy Drive
11. DigiView 17" Monitor
12. Generic Keyboard
13. MS Intellimouse
14. Inwin Clone Case


* Server-1 (AD Root)

1. Windows 2000 Advanced Server SP1
2. PIII 550 (5x100)
3. ASUS P3B-F
4. 640MB PC-100 RAM (2x256MB+1x128MB)
5. Intel Pro/100 Management Adapter
6. Maxtor 6GB ATA-33 5400RPM Hard Drive
7. IBM 20GB ATA-33 5400RPM Hard Drive
8. Matshita CR-586 32X CD-ROM
9. 1.44MB Floppy Drive
10. Generic 14" Monitor
11. Generic Keyboard
12. Logitech Optical Trackball
13. Generic Mid-Tower Case
14. HP 722C DeskJet Printer
15. APC USB UPS


* Server-2 (Second Server for AD Replication)
1. Windows 2000 Server SP1
2. Celeron 333
3. Diamond Micronics C400 Motherboard
4. 128MB PC100 RAM (1x128MB)
5. Intel Pro/100 Management Adapter
6. Maxtor 20GB ATA-100 7200RPM Hard Drive
7. Acer 50x CD-ROM
8. 1.44 MB Floppy Drive
9. Generic 14" Monitor (sharing the one on Server-1)
10. Generic Keyboard
11. Logitech Optical Trackball (sharing the one on Server-1)
12. Enlight Case

Well...here is mine:

Windows 2000 Server
Intel PIII-933
Abit SA6R motherboard
512 PC-133 Crucial memory
IBM 30 GB + 45 GB
Geforce2 GTS
SoundBlaster Live!
3Com 10/100
Sony 17" monitor

Well brian do i hear anyone else complaining,so i messed up,thats what you get when you're high.I have no problems i just wanted to know what specs are these days.

and i wasn't saying how great my computer is i just listed specs

Mine is in my sig. No, you are not seeing things, it says 700Mhz @ 698.

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Athlon 700 @ 698
Epox 7kxa
256Mb PC133
Hercules Prophet 32Mb DDR
Sound Blaster X-Gamer
Pioneer 16x DVD
HP 9100i CD-RW
2-30gig 7200RPM WD HD
ViewSonic PF790 19"
Win98SE
Full Tower

2MHz isn't going to effect anything. There is always some variation in processor speeds. The given speed is only an average. My 933MHz runs at 937MHz out of the box.

That, and a lot of software misreads the actual speed anyway.

Cody, Brian isn't b1tching at you or anything, he was just mentioning a thread a while back when a kid put down everyone's system just cause they didn't have the latest, greatest scsi 15000rpm hard drives. He meant no offense by it

Yeah, OLEerror, but your processor is UNDERmarked. Mine is OVERmarked. I realize that they cannot get to the exact speed every time, but usually when they cannot reach the speed they are looking for, they back up the speed & send it out @ 50Mhz slower. I downloaded a small program that is supposed to measure processor speed to the .01Mhz.

There are variations from chip to chip that could cause it to go slightly above or below spec. 2MHz is only about 0.3% off though. It might not even be the processor though - something in the motherboard could be slowing the bus down slightly, thereby dragging the processor down.

Hey this should be fun. All three were built by me.

My Computer:
866 Pentium 3
815 Intel mobo
256 pc133 ram
45 gig Maxtor 7200rpm primary and 8 gig Maxtor secondary
TDK 8x CDR Drive
Creative PC-DVD 8x with dxr3 Decoder
Creative GeForce 2 Gts
Sony 17 inch
Soundblaster Live Platnium with live drive
Cambridge Desktop Theater 5.1 DTT2500 Digital Surround
Hp P1100 Photosmart printer
Hp Scanjet 4200c
Antec Sapphire Blue case with 300 watt power
Microsoft intelimouse explorer (optic)
Microsoft Natural Pro keyboard
Lynksys network hub
Broadband
Dual boot Win 98se and Whistler 2428

Wife's computer:
600 Pentium 3
440 bx mobo
128 pc100 ram
8 gig Maxtor pimary and 4.3 W.D. Sec.
Generic DVD Drive 1st gen.
Memorex 48x CD
VooDoo 3 3500TV pri.
Diamond TNT Sec.
2 15' Sonys
ESS 1869 soundcard
Macally usb keyboard and mouse (she likes colored stuff)
Lyksys network card
Antec Ruby case with 300w power
Generic flat panel speakers to match the case
(hey it has to be color coordinated)
Win 2000 pro sp1

Son's computer:
450 Pentium2
VIA 133 MOBO
128 pc100 RAM
10 gig Maxtor
Memorex 48x CD
Creative GeForce DDR
15' Sony
Soundblaster Live Value
Cambridge 4 point Surround
Lyksys Network card
Generic Keyboard
Microsoft Intellmouse
Antec Beige case (yuck)
HP 722 Printer
Win 2000pro sp1

Whew I think that about covers it. As you can tell I have a blast with this stuff. We have killer times online playing TFC.
Be Cool,
RattDawg

MY SOON TO BE OBSOLETE, NON-UPGRADABLE LAPTOP

Latitude c800

Mobile P-3 850Mhz/815 Solano Chipset
512MB SDRAM
32GB Ultra -ATA HDD
32MB ATI Mobility 128 4x AGP
ESS Maestro 3E Sound
15" SXGA TFT LCD
DVD/CDROM Modular
8x4x24 CDRW Modular
1.44MB Floppy Modular
250MB Zip Modular
3Com 56k Cellular Global + 10/100 Combo Card

+ (for all you desktop users..hehe) -
"PORTABILITY" ;-)

Now, if I could only get the same color saturation as my SGI Dual-Xeon Graphics Wkstn.....

[This message has been edited by ofelas (edited 04 March 2001).]

Damn everyone is 550mhz and up.I finally got my motherboard.I must say the on-board sound isn't all that great,and the dvd is choppier.but i can see a difference.the dvd sound jumps with the movie, cause when it edges along so does the sound.Any answers?
And another thing i tried to play quake III<all i got was a grey screen,i did task manager,and exited.I reinstalled my drivers and i still got the grey screen.What do you all suggest?

What mobo are you running? Are you running software or hareware decoding on the DVD?
Plus when you put a new mobo did you wipe out the drive and reinstall everything? Need some details

So pretty much i format and reinstall windows?And i'm running a dfi ak74 mobo

If you install a new mobo without wiping everything out. You will have major driver conflicts. You can go into safe mode to remove the doubles and old board drivers but its easier just to start fresh.

and i'm not using a decorder card? cuase i need drivers?It's a creative ct7165-d.Eddie314 say there isn't drivers for w2k, but i want to partion my harddrive and put 98 so i can use the decorder card?

My quote creative labs suck

Yeah, its best to reinstall with a new mobo. Things really begin to suck if you dont. Win2k is really hardware sensative to changes. With any MS OS its a good idea to reformat. Linux doesnt seem to care, but Windows does. I'll bet your problems are coming from Win2k getting confused about the new mobo.
And I wasnt insulting you...I was giving you fair warning so you wouldnt piss anyone off.

Thanks for the info i'll have to start on that tomorrow.

i'll partiton your drive for you, when do you want me to do it?

I guess whenever i go to the trailor

Here's all my systems
"NECESSARY EVIL" is my home machine
"LANBOX-2" is my LAN rig(Who's Got Bawls?)
{Unnamed Computer) will be my Linux Box
"cupcake" is of no use to me yet.


NECESSARY EVIL
--Reaper Computer Systems Custom Built #4--
<Windows 2000 Advanced Server SP2beta, IE5.5 SP1, DX8a>
AMD Athlon 1.11@1.31(12.5x105 with an unlocked L1) blue-core "Thunderbird-b" (ran hot at 133mhz fsb(1466))
Alpha PEP66T & Delta Black Label 60mm fan
Asus A7V133 (VIA KT133a) with onboard RAID-O
512MB PC133 SDRAM (2x256 Mushkin Rev2 CAS 2:2:2 5t/7t STRONG @ 133mhz)
SuperMicro 760A Full Tower(Modded for more fans and painted Rustoleum Hammered Black)
SP301-RA 300W Athlon Approved Redundant Cooling Power Supply (Enermax 450W on the way)
IBM 75GXP 15GB UDMA/100 7200RPM & MAXTOR Diamand Max 45GB UDMA/100 7200 RPM hdds
Promise Ultra 100 Controller card
9 80mm,3 92mm, 2 120mm High Output fans, 1 40mm(GF2), and 1 60mm(DBL) fans spewing out about 1100 CFM
OEM GeForce2 GTS(OCed 250/400) on Detonator 7.52
Creative Labs SB Live! X-Gamer
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro
RAZER Boomslang 2000
Everglide Razer Giganta (for LAN parties only)
Trendware TE100S4PCI 10/100 4 port Switch/Ethernet Adapter
Iomega 8x4x32 CD-RW
Pioneer 6x DVD/ 32x CD-ROM
Creative 52x CD-ROM
Teac Floppy(black)
Dell Ultrascan 1000 17" Trinitron Monitor(1600x1200@60hz)


LANBOX-2
--Reaper Computer Systems Custom Built #7--
<Windows 2000 Professional SP2 DX8a>
Intel 633@800 CeleronII(cbo)
Thermaltake Golden Orb
Asus CUSL2 (intel 815e) motherboard BIOS 1006
160MB PC100 SDRAM(1x128 PNY, 1x32 NEC)RAM
generic wave midtower
Deer 300W Athlon Approved Power Supply
Maxtor DiamondMax 30gb UDMA 66 7200rpm HDD
Epox USB66 UDMA 66 controller/4 port USB hub
3x80mm, 5x40 fans(about 180CFM)
Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Annhilator Pro GeForce256 DDR on Detonator 7.52
Diamond S70 soundcard(ESS MaestroII)
Logitech Itouch Pro Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard
Logitech Wheelmouse Optical
Everglide Half-Life Giganta(for LAN parties only)
D-Link DFE-530TX+ 10/100 Ethernet Adapter
Lucent 56k WinModem
Memorex 4x2x24 CD-RW
Toshiba 12x CD-ROM
generic floppy
Compaq V720 17" (1280x1024@60) Monitor


{Unnamed Computer}
--Reaper Computer Systems Re-Built #2--
<Linux(Mandrake 7.2)>
AMD K6-2 333mhz with generic HSF
Packard Bell OEM microATX (SiS 5630) motherboard with onboard audio and video
64mb EDO SIMMs(4x16)
{no case yet}
Packard Bell OEM 90W PSU
Western Digital 4GB UDMA/33 5400rpm hdd
1x92, 1x60 fans(under 100 CFM)
ATI RAGE IIC 4mb Xpression+ PC2TV
Microsoft Intellimouse PS2
Gadzeeks clear keyboard
D-Link DFE-530TX+ 10/100 Ethernet Adapter
Acer 8x CD-ROM
generic floppy drive
Packard Bell 14" (800x600@60)monitor


cupcake
--Reaper Computer Systems Re-Built #1--
<{no OS chosen}>
Pentium 133
Elpina/PCChips M559 motherboard
24MB EDO SIMMS(2x8, 2x4)
Full AT Tower
{unknown} 250W AT Power Supply
640mb Quantum mode 4 5400 rpm hdd
1x92, 1x60 fans(under 100 CFM)
STB Cirrus Logic 5430 1mb video card
3com Etherlink III 10mbs Ethernet Adapter
Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra 16
generic Serial Mouse

--External parts in use by all computers--
Hewlett Packard 660CSE Printer
Netgear RT314 4 port Router(with switching functions)
Allied Telesyn FH716 16 port dual speed ethernet hub
D-Link 4 port USB hub
Logitech Soundman G1 Powered Speakers & AIWA HPX222 Headphones
Everglide mousepad (blue complimentary LAP)

Parts waiting for a computer:
BioStar Socket7 motherboard
Cyrix MII 333
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My PC is warm. I think our fire wall is acting up.

Will Work For Bandwidth

[This message has been edited by INFERNO2000 (edited 07 March 2001).]

All your weed are belong to EddiE314

All your KB are belong to Four and Twenty

Hey Cody, page me when you get this message
(304 271 ****)

[This message has been edited by EddiE314 (edited 06 March 2001).]

Well i need some weed.

Come to VT there is plenty here!

Pimpin_228 and I come from the same small town in WV, there's no weed here to save your life.

Well said it's like someone wanting water in the desert.

or a glass of Ice Water in Hell.

You see it's pretty harsh to get weed in this beater town.

That sucks I feel for you guys.

This town too!!!! ANd I'm feening bbad 8)

i mean, i'm an "Ex-Pothead" if there is such a thing, but i still think its ok to roll one every now and then. Potheads should band together and build their own society of brilliant minds who aren't afraid to kill a few brain cells, i know i never lost any IQ points from it.

Mine went up

grr


system is still too new

still tweaking

I'm now running Necessary Evil at 1333mhz officially(133x10), but at 1344mhzin actuality(134x10)

3dmark2000 score of 7994

I need just a bit more out of this system

[This message has been edited by INFERNO2000 (edited 07 March 2001).]

OOOOH, Wow!. I wish that "Why is my system so dope?" fag see that score. Lets here it for overclocking. This is another good reason I dont try to act like Ive got the sweetest system on the planet, cause I know I'll get smacked down real bad. At least Ive got the fastest box at home...well, that could change once my dad puts in his GF2 MX card, but I still have far greater expandability.Hahahahahaaaaaa :p

VERY NICE Inferno2000! Very nice indeed. I think I'll crawl back into my little hole now...

Oh...just tried out Sandra on my system


SPANK!

my 1.33ghz just kicked the 1.5 P4 system around.

I surpassed the P4 score in the multimedia and the cpu benchmark by 400 and 200 points respectively

of course, I lost out in the memory benchmark.

but DAMN


btw

I got it to go to 8104 if I turned off everything in my startup.


I'm proud of my box

now it reaches 110 at full load, and is at 104 at idle

I dont usually run my 120s though..


Oh, and Brian? thanks for the compliment. I genuinely don't want to come off like that guy did

I know Ronin has a faster machine than I. I know if I wanted to spend thousands of dollars, I could get soemthing a hell of a lot faster than what I have.


I like my system. I want ot show it off and get some credit for the hard work I put into it.
But I know that many others work hard on their computers, and they deserve as much credit as someone wiht a new system.


A Celeron 300a@450 these days is practically nothing.

But back a couple years ago, that was a hell of a system.

Just because systems grow faster, doesn't mean the work put into them becomes less meaningful.



[This message has been edited by INFERNO2000 (edited 07 March 2001).]

Well i got the 750 in and new mobo and this weeekend it's getting overclocked to 950

i'll TRY to get it to 950 for you man, no promises though.

Well, I just dropped some $$ on the Duron 800 and a Kiwi orb cooler. Now time to OC...hehehe. I do see that my V4 AGP is the bottleneck, but I think I'll wait for some good deals on a GF2 GTS since the GF3 is out now, and nVidia would be wise to get the cards based on it cheaper then they are now. Im looking at an Asus GTS or something from Hercules...in a few months. Well, OCing my proc should get me over 3000 in 3dmark now.
OC by FSB should get me to 904 no problems.
Slapped some heatsink compound on the core and it dropped the temp back into the 90 F range...musta not put enough on the ol' Duron 600.
If all else fails, the FSB should work, but it depends on the mobo too.
Good luck :p

Alrigt lets see what we can do

Well, i'm not running at 698 anymore, running @ 770 @ 36C. Not exactly monumental, but not bad. I will go higher when I get better cooling. How hot do you guys go before you start to get worried?


INFERNO, very nice.

Wow! Id like to be that cool. I dont think Ive hit above 45C/111F, but I sure wouldnt mind getting my cpu cooler. I have a sh*tload of fans in my case, so theres plenty of airflow.
My specs on the sig line

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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@904MHz
384 MB SDRAM PC133
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100
Voodoo 4 4500 AGP @176 MHz
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Kiwi Orb Fan with additional CoolerMaster strapped onto one side
HDD cooler pulling air in
Dual slot fan to suck air out
Case fan to suck air out
Dual 80mm fans to blow on cards.

my cpu never gets above 98 F

Am I gonna have a problem with heat any?
Or am I still okay, cuz someone said that as long as it doesnt get above 120F you should be okay.

I'm high,but the heat issue is that you should be alright.Am i right eddie?My duron runs sometimes at 137.6 but i'vr got it to go dowm to 97.4 .so i don't think you have any problems.

i've heard lotsa people complaining that the athons and duron het that hot, seems odd for me since my cpu doesn't get that high, try to keep it at no higher than 110 or so and you should be fine, dunnni though, cause i'm also high.

Yeah i agree i have heard bout people complaining bout heat issues but i'll live.

Hey, hey, hey!
Super sweet utility-CPUcool at www.tweakfiles.com cools the cpu plus a bucha other stuff too. You can select the exact motherboard (ie Asus A7V) you have and it will tell you how hot it is in either C or F, whatever your choice! The highest Ive seen it since I installed was 103F with my room heater on. I now see mid-80s F.
The only annoyances are everytime you boot into windows, theres an annoying box that you have to click OK to get it away. Just make sure to hit save settings from the file menu or youll have to reset everything on reboot.

Well i dunno i know mine has a heat issue

Any body else have a heat issue

Just figured I put up something thats free (well kinda, register just to get some annoying thing from poping up-aint worth $13) cause we all like free stuff. Plus, its a pretty cool thing, almost convinced me to send the money...almost.
I just like a less than toasty cpu.
Ah, what troubles we overclockers face.

Mine isn't overclocked though

900 Posts for me!!

Don't usually post things like this, but ah well.. (me's is bored)

Abit VP6,
Dual Intel Pentium III 800EBs (cB0),
2x128MB PC133 RAM (Generic),
10.2GB Seagate U10 (ATA-66) HD,
30.0GB Seagate U5 (ATA-100) HD,
2.0GB Seagate (SCSI) HD,
Creative 32x CD-ROM Drive,
Creative 12/40x DVD-ROM Drive (1241E),
Yamaha CRW4260T CD-RW (SCSI),
Creative GeForce2 GTS,
Adaptec 2910AU SCSI Controller Card (Slot2),
Accton Cheetah EN1207D-TX/WOL 10/100Mb/s Netword Card (Slot3),
Diamond Multimedia SuperExpress 56i PRO (Slot4),
Creative SoundBlaster Live! Platinum (Slot5).

--Cynan.

Update! Update!
Now heres my computer with a little more muscle. And I get better 3dmark scores to boot!

And heres the specs now. (Shoulda posted those with the last post!)

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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@904MHz
384 MB SDRAM PC133
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100
Hercules Prophet II MX
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Kiwi Orb Fan with additional CoolerMaster strapped onto one side
HDD cooler pulling air in
Dual slot fan to suck air out
Case fan to suck air out
Dual 80mm fans to blow on cards.

what r your 3d mark scores?

my best is 2261 with win xp which is nothing special but pretty impressive for this old dog. I have been meaning to do one in winme for comparison but haven't gotten around too it yet.


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My System
Dell Demension XPS T500
Dual Boot
Windows Whistler Pro 2446
Windows Millennium Final Retail
PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan)
512 Megs Ram
Guillemot Maxi Gammer Cougar (TNT2 M64 w/ 32 Megs of RAM)
Matrox Millennium PCI (w/ 4 Megs of RAM for second monitor)
3Com Etherlink XL 10/100 Ethernet Card
2 x Abit Hot Rod Pro ATA-100 RAID Controlers
2 x 12.6 Gig Maxtor Hard Disks RAID 0 (for system)
1 76.3 Gig Maxtor Hard Disk (for storage)
40X LG CD Rom Drive
100 Mb Iomega Internal Zip Drive
MS Explorer Mouse
MS Natural Keyboard Pro

Last check 4038

Of course I havent installed Zone Alarm and Norton AntiVirus, so I probably wont hit this high again.

Lets hear it for overclocking!

What version do you use? 3DMarks 2000 or 2001? which OS do you run them in? which test? what res and detail level? its not really very good just saying the end mark.

--Cynan.

3dmark2000 trial, standard default tests.

Brought the speed down from 1133mhz to 832mhz due to issues with Heat and gameplay in most games. BIOS Revision is "XJ".


MotherBoard - Abit VH6 Socket 370 (1 AMR, 1 AGP, 5 PCI, 1 ISA)
Fan/Cooling - (CPU) Alpha PEP66 38cfm Heatsink/Fan
Processor(s) - Intel Celeron II 667@832MHz
Hard Drive - Seagate 30GB 7200rpm IDE (Partitioned into three)
Memory - 640MB Total. Two Sticks 256MB, One Stick 128MB. SDRAM PC133 168pin DIMM (Generic)
Video Card - nVidia GeForce 2 MX 32MB AGP
Modem - Phoebe Micro 56K V.90 PCI
Sound Card - VIA Audio (OnBoard)
MPEG Decoder - Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus! PCI
Ethernet Adapter - RealTek 8029(AS) 10BaseT Ethernet Adapter
Removeable Storage - Mitsumi 3.5" Floppy Drive
DVD-ROM - Pioneer DVD-115 16x DVD ROM Drive IDE
CD-RW - Plextor Plexwriter 12x/10x/32x CD-RW Drive IDE
Power Supply - Generic 250w ATX
Monitor - 19" NEC Multisync (Dead!) Using 15" Compaq 1525 Now.

Im gonna stick with the Detonator Drivers as Descent 3 wont crash after exiting a game (BSOD for the nv4.dll with hercules drivers)
3dmark with Norton AV and ZoneAlarm installed: 4204.

Oooo, a mines bigger than yours thread :-)

ASUS CUSL2 (1006.A)
PIII 1Ghz EB
2x 256MB (2-2-2) PC133 DIMM's (Crucial)
Matrox G400MAX
SB Live! Value
2x IBM 45GB ATA-100 7200rpm HD's
Adaptec 19160 SCSI Adapter
Pioneer 6x/32x SCSI DVD-ROM
Yamaha 16x/10x/40x SCSI CD-RW
Iomega Zip100 SCSI Internal
Intel 10/100 Pro Management NIC
Microsoft Internet Pro Keyboard
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer
Iiyama Vision Master Pro 410
Windows 2000 (Fully paid for and legal) only

[This message has been edited by BladeRunner (edited 17 March 2001).]

Damn i need to boast my ****

I was trying to get people to start showing 3dmark scores on another thread, but it didnt work. So I guess I'll help push this one along.

Show me what you got!

Latest score in 3dmark: 4474!

Of course if youve seen Inferno2000's, you know what your up against.

[This message has been edited by Brian Frank (edited 18 March 2001).]

okay how do you check the 3d mrks

And my duron 750@900

an obvious answer to an obious question you check you 3dmark score using 3dmark!

get it here: www.madonion.com

Theres a benchmarking program called 3DMark2000, and thats what we're referring to. I believe that http://www.the-ctrl-alt-del.com has it available to download. The company that makes it is putting out 3DMark2001, but that requires a bit more muscle to push around. So you'd get some humiliating scores.
The higher the better.
If you saw Inferno2000's score, you will drool.

Okay thanks i'll try it and see what i get

And do you all thin k napster should stay on because if you do Go to www.napster.com so you can fight with us to keep napster alive.

I'll be upgrading my case pretty soon.

Here's what I have now
http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/NEoutside.jpg

I'll be getting an Addtronics W8500(or an 8600 if I can so it'll have the locking door on the bezel).


Still, my 1.1 is hitting 1.5 ghz, but it's too damned hot for me to feel comfortable keeping it there.
maybe when I get the addtronics, I'll spring for a peltier and watercooling.

O'kay, 3DMark2000, standard tests, detonator 7.52 drivers running on 2K, I get 6003. With 3DMark2001, I get around 2500 - I forget what exactly.

Brian Frank, you mentioned about NAV and ZoneAlarm being installed, does that effect the scores? I have both running all the time too, as well as a few other things.

--Cynan.

[This message has been edited by Cynan (edited 18 March 2001).]

Let' see...

I did it one last time with 3dmark2000 before I uninstalled.

tweaked everything to have nothing running and MINIMAL services...


8129

sweet!

uninstalled 3dmark2000 and installed 3dmark2001.

Only got a score of 3185

Well, Cynan, looking at your specs, you probably dont have to worry, having a dual cpu setup. Norton does take some resources to run, and I ususally turn it off, but I leave ZA on. Im beginning to think that thats as big of a problem as I first thought, because my dad has a slightly slower pc than mine except he's got 2 7200RPM hard drives, and Im not sure if that contributes to his slight performance gain over mine. I really shouldnt worry, eventually the way nVidia's drivers are going, I should overtake him even with his 5.12 detonators. The best performance for me is 10.80. I'll snag the latest and greatest drivers as long as they dont have problems.

i got 2032

on your duron that is oclocked? I got 2261 on my old p3 500 with win xp. You should try tweaking some services and other stuff on your sys cause it should go higher than that.

Pimpin228, get Xteq X-Setup. Loads of tweaks, hidden features, also you can enable overclocking GF2's w/o extra programs. Works on a GF2 MX. 10.80 Det. right here.
My PIII 667 with only PC100 running at 100MHz (performance hit right there) 192MB of it, and a Voodoo 3 3000 AGP can hit 2100's just by tweaking, and its under Win2k.
My score on ME is closer to 3000's,
but my main rig as it stands now has hit 4621, see sig line: (for the zillionth time in this post)

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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@912MHz
384 MB SDRAM PC133
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100
Hercules Prophet II MX (core:196MHz ram:197MHz)
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Kiwi Orb Fan with additional CoolerMaster strapped onto one side
HDD cooler pulling air in
Dual slot fan to suck air out
Case fan to suck air out
Dual 80mm fans to blow on cards.

Hey..from now on, we need to specify what version of 3dmark we're using.

a 3000 in 2001 is really good
a 3000 in 2000 is really not as good.

OS WinXP 2446
Det 6.50 (hacked for 85 hz refresh) with coolbits reg tweak
the card is over clocked from 125/150 to 155/165 core/mem
3D Mark 2000
score 2261

hardware details below

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My System
Dell Demension XPS T500
Dual Boot
Windows Whistler Pro 2446
Windows Millennium Final Retail
PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan)
512 Megs Ram
Guillemot Maxi Gammer Cougar (TNT2 M64 w/ 32 Megs of RAM)
Matrox Millennium PCI (w/ 4 Megs of RAM for second monitor)
3Com Etherlink XL 10/100 Ethernet Card
2 x Abit Hot Rod Pro ATA-100 RAID Controlers
2 x 12.6 Gig Maxtor Hard Disks RAID 0 (for system)
1 76.3 Gig Maxtor Hard Disk (for storage)
40X LG CD Rom Drive
100 Mb Iomega Internal Zip Drive
MS Explorer Mouse
MS Natural Keyboard Pro

Good point Inferno2000, that would clear up alot.
My PIII system under Win2k 3dMark2000:2153
My Duron@912 " ":4627 highest score on default res.

Its fun to post your specs and scores, even if you know there's much better systems out there. :p

mine is 3991, celemine 667@1133, 640mb ram cas2, gf2mx. standard settings

so what do you all think bout the durons i like them

i think the duron has a lot of potential and great performance for the price, if i wasn't such a die-hard Intel fan, i'd switch from a Celemine to a Duron.

Duron vs. Celeron?

Duron all the way!

Normally I'd say bad things about VIA, but I haven't had problems with the KT133(a) and nvidia cards.

But those problems were only experienced(by me) on the KX133....my KT system works perfectly...

as far as performance goes, Duron. As far as quality (in my opinion), Celeron.

Okay new system specs now
dfi ak74 motherboard amd duron 750@848
thermal take super orb
128 megs pc 100 ram
ac 97 onboard sound
us robotics 56k modem
generic nic card
riva tnt 16m
pc dvd player
maxtor 8.08 harddrive
2 120mm fans
full tower case


and yes eddie i did get thermal grease i put it on first thing

Durons: cheap, fast, and overclockable.
Celerons: slower, not so fast, and overclockable.
Durons rule. ~90% of the Athlon performance and at insanely low prices to boot. Kinda like the GF2 MX. I love overclocking.

I'll stick with the PIII's in my PIII system and Durons in my Duron system. T-Birds are just a little too toasty for my comfort. Not saying i wouldnt go to the 1.2 GHz T-Bird, but Im not ready for that one yet.

My systems as they stand now:

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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@912MHz
448MB SDRAM PC133
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100 5400RPM
Hercules Prophet II MX (core:196MHz ram:197MHz)
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Kiwi Orb Fan
HDD cooler pulling air in
Dual slot fan to suck air out
Case fan to suck air out
Dual 80mm fans to blow on cards.
Win2k Pro

Pentium III 667
Tyan Trinity 400
256MB SDRAM PC100
Toshiba 6x DVD-ROM
Western Digital 17.2GB ATA66 5400RPM hdd
WD 2.5GB ATA33 4500RPM hdd
Voodoo3 3000AGP w/TV-Out
SB 16 OEM PCI
SB compatibleISA sound card
Realtek 10/100 NIC
HP 1280 17" monitor
MS Intellimouse optical
PC Concepts wave keyboard
3-way speakers
Win2k Pro/WinME

"To be or not to be, that is the question."

ya know what?
these 2 words will make my system offially one hell of a system(as soon as it's released.)


ColdForge AA-15 (in either black or clear anodization)

I can't believe i didn't bother reading this post....i thought it would be another one of those "Why is my system so dope?" threads, but this one is far from that. This is kinda fun. Okay, after many upgrades over the past year, this is what i am using now:

1.) AMD Athlon T-bird 1.2 Ghz.
2.) Asus A7V-133a Mobo
3.) 512 MB PC-133 Micron RAM
4.) Asus V7700 Geforce 2 Pro 64Meg DDR
5.) SBLive!
6.) Western Digital 40 gig ATA-100 7200 RPM
7.) 3Com 3C905B 10/100 Network Adapter
8.) Kenwood True 72x CD-ROM
9.) Sony CD-RW 8/4/32
10.) Enlight ATX case w/300 watt Power Supply
11.) MAG 796FD 17" True Flat Display monitor .25
12.) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer
13.) Altec Lansing ACS56 Speakers

And thats about it....

[This message has been edited by HarU (edited 22 March 2001).]

Okay do you all think the durons will go to the ghz's i do, cause the rate they are comin out with them i think they will here soon and theywill be cheap about it. but i can sttick with duron 750 for a while but i do want the 850 but for me i think amd all the way. i have had one problem with one i fried it.but other than that they have been good to me.but i think what you like is what you like.

You might be able to, but it depends on the board you got. Also major overclocks usually empower a good HSF that costs a lot. Go check out Toms Hardware Guide http://www.tomshardware.com and look for the Cpu Cooler Review. Some coolers cost as much as $70, and some of those are very loud.

he's got a Super Orb and lotsa thermal grease, i think he might be safe to go 750@950

Go for it.
BTW, just installed DX8 on the ol Duron system. 3dMark2000 score:5135. That DX8 would explain why my dads sytem would get better scores than me before hand.

Inferno2000, whats that ColdForge thing? Sounds like something really cool-literally, but what is it?

Coldforge AA15 is a StiltBuilt (Faraday Systems) case.

it's about 26" tall by 22" deep by 15" wide.

it's a big ol WTX case--it's somewhere between a cube and the addtronics W8500.

All aluminum, and anodized any color you want it.

with the Enermax 330W PSU, it's about 350 bucks, and weighs just 20 lbs.


but it's not been released yet.


here's a link for the picture of a prototype next to the addtronics W8500

http://www.voidyourwarranty.net/reviews/stiltner/images/cf01.jpg

[This message has been edited by INFERNO2000 (edited 24 March 2001).]

8) That thing's huge! 8)

Hit me baby! I NEEEEEDDDD that!

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Regards,

clutch

Highest FSB speed Ive gotten to run flawlessly is 114MHz on the KT133 based Asus A7V. Tried increasing the voltage as high as 1.65 volts, but it will still hose up sometime. Would it be worth it to go up another .05 volts or is it time to give that up.
I havent had any success with the lead pencil trick. Is it just across the L1 bridges or both the L1 AND the L2 bridges?
Ive look at article on Anandtech and Toms Hardware, and Im still trying to figure this out.

its just the L1 bridges, tops to bottoms

Thats what I thought.

they're so damned small that its hard to do with a pencil, and you have to get that graphite on there THICK!

That would explain a lot.

i would push the 750 to the ghz's but somethen is messed up i dunno rather the mobo or processor cause when i turn it on
all i get is a blank screen no monitor action nothin what do you all think?
cause whatever you all tell me will help alot

Did you increase the core voltage?

well i reset the bios and set the seting to default but it still doesn't but i tried the processor in a different mobo and it did nothin, and it smelled burnt but owell i am workin on gettin a 850 and i will push it to
1 ghz and ride easy with that.but what i meant by the duron goin to the ghz's was do you think they make them stock 1 ghz's and up
cause the amd 56-2 only went to 550.but i think they will but do you all think i can go to 1 ghz and ride with ease i think i can cause the 750 could go to 900 with ease and i think the 850 will to

AMD is going to be releasing the 900MHz Duron on March27th. This could be the last speed bump for the Duron before the new "Morgan" core which is supposed to come out at 950MHz. Unfortuantely, the current chipsets arent supposed to support the new Duron core or the new Athlon core-Palimino.
Based on the info Ive read, I doubt AMD has underclocked Durons.
If something on your computer smells burnt, thats bad news IMO.

okay i agree but i ain't worried about the processor,cause by the end of the week i will have a duron 850 and a stick of 256 and a hercules video card, but thanks for the imput

forget i said anhything bout the duron i am now gettin a athlon 900, or should i not get it because i want to know the difference or what should i get either duron or athlon?

I pity you, fool for the wrath this forum will bestow upon you. And the fact you dont have broadband. Sucker!

once said by brian frank. i ain't startin nothin but i turned out alright didn't i?

cody - why would you spend the extra $$ on a athlon when you can get a duron 750 for $40 or an 850 for around $70-$80. You're not really gonna notice a speed difference with it anyway, you need to concentrate on a newer, faster harddrive and more ram and vid, forget getting a fast cpu until the rest of the system can handle it, otherwise you'll have a huge bottleneck in your system and the speed and performance will suffer.

[This message has been edited by EddiE314 (edited 27 March 2001).]

Well, if your gonna get a new chip, it might not be a bad idea, but it depends on how much more it is for the T-Bird 900 over the Duron 850. On average, the Duron can pull 90% of the T-Bird. Id say shoot for it, but be a little conservative on the OC this time. Athlons are cheap, but I dont want to buy more parts than necessary. Then with the money you dont spend fixing things, you can buy some newfangled part.

exactly, instead of repairing or upgrading the cpu and mobo every few months, shoot for a balanced system, not a fast CPU.Back when i had dual celeron 400's, i upgraded to dual celeron 500@550's, guess how many seconds got shaved off my boot time.......2! I got about 4-8 extra fps in quake 3 arena and about 10 extra fps with SMP enabled. Not a very big difference huh? you know why it was not that big of difference? udma33 5400rpm hard drive and a voodoo3 2000. As you can see, it wasn't worth it for me to upgrade for just 2 seconds and 10 fps.

Yup. I got a Duron 800-now 904-and incresed some, but when I dropped the $100 on a GF2MX that made the difference...like 2000 (yes 2000) points on 3dmark. Also, if you set your cas and timings to 2t instead of 3t, it can speed up your system a little bit. But the prob is if you dont have ram that can run at that speed, you'll have problems.
Real good advice: GET X-SETUP!
Uhh lets see it: enables nVidia cards clock adjustment feature (works with the 10.80s), encreases efficency, what ever TweakUI does and a whole lot more.
Also, getting the latest bios helps tremendously. Ive got the Asus A7V and updated to the 1007 bios. I had problems fixed that I didnt know were issues with the bios.
Plus, the Bios is FREE!
What can I say, Im a cheap .
And you should be too.
Only upgrade what is going to give you a major bang for the buck.
Remember its the Durons and Celerons and GeForce 2 MX's that make you a damn good box...if you get the right components.

i agree totally.

Well i was gonna get the athlon 900,geforce 2 64 meg vid card and a s tick of 256. but i want to know if the 256 is high density it is by micron but what is it. okay i want a new hard drive but what kind should i get?i was thinkin a ibm deskstar or something like that

well is it

Well, where are you getting it from. If its from Micron, duh. Micron memory should have MT on the chips. Or you could just ask the guy you're getting it from.
Having a better video card is always a good thing. A GeForce2 MX is a stellar card for the price. The next speed upgrade will probably cost you another $100 to go from a MX to a GTS.

new system specs now
amd ahtlon 850
dfi ak-74 mobo
5x dvd
nvidia geforce 2 mx with tv out
mtec 256 megs of ram pc 133
and everything else is still the same


but i got to get a new mobo because it fried too

Get an Asus A7V or A7V133. Sweet boards, man.
They are a little frustrating to get running, but in the end, its very well worth it. The only really bad thing about the board is the worthless CNR slot on it. Geez, there couldve been another PCI slot or an ISA slot instead.
If you just OC by the FSB, you wont be able to get it completely stable past 113MHz.
But go for the best one in your area.

where is the cheapest place to get one?

you know what brian? when i first got on nt, you seemed like you didn't like me and now you're cool a sh1t.but thank you for the info and you too ed

I didnt want to come off as an @ss, but I wanted to make sure you werent trying to pull a stunt to say you had the best computer. The reason for this is because when I joined up, there was this guy who thought his PC was the stuff. Needless to say, the forum swarmed on him. Hes posted once since we put him back in his place. I didnt want you to start one of those.

BTW, ive got a much better OC of my GF2MX. Ive heard the GTS cards might be able to hit 240 on the clocks, but thats it. On both the core and the ram clocks are running 200+ MHz.

As for the A7V, they are kinda expensive ~$150 at least, I paid 189 for it, but I consider that a good trade off in case the board goes bad then you wont be as stuck as if you did it through mail-order. Dont ever get things from Tiger Direct. My dad did, but he never got replacements for them when some parts didnt work.
The A7V may be cheaper since the A7V133 is out now. Id personally suggest looking locally for a new board. I havent heard much about that DFI board, but I have seen seen reviews of the FIC AZ-11e. That is better suited for overclocking than the FIC AZ-11, and is also more stable from what Ive read.
The AZ-11e doesnt have the bells and whistles of the A7V or Abit KT7/A-line, but its gotten some good reviews.
Go for the best board that you can afford.

[This message has been edited by Brian Frank (edited 29 March 2001).]

just thought I should mention my 1.1ghz AVHA Tbird(b)is now running at 1400(140x10) at default voltage with no temperature increase from 133x10

thank you

I'll take it higher after I break it in at this speed for a week

I want to stay at 1.5 and not worry...

I saw her once...I wanna see her again

Oh..and this is on an A7V133

[This message has been edited by INFERNO2000 (edited 30 March 2001).]

Ooooooh! Ahhhhhhhhhhh! Thats sweet.
I love to see the extras overclocking gives you.

Hey, Pimpin, got your new mobo picked out yet?

Sorry boys the comp was down yes i got a new one picked out the ---Abit KT7A-RAID ------pretty sweet check it out http://www.tccomputers.com
it's pretty sweet it supports raid and i glad i didn't turn out to be a guber.

Well, now the L1 bridge pencil trick isnt critcal to overclocking. The only thing you need to worry about now is having PC133 ram.
Ive heard that the A7V series and the KT7-line are the only ones to fool with if you want the real power. Not to say other boards are bad, but these lines are the pinnacle right now.
Here's to overclocking.

BTW, make sure youve got a good HSF to keep your investment from burning up this time.

Sadly, you have to copy and paste, since geocities doesn't allow linking.

http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/NEoutside.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/NEinside1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/DESK.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/Desktop.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/WCPUID.jpg

>this isn't (directly) computer related. But, what the hell.
http://www.geocities.com/reaper_computer_systems/BMC.jpg

[This message has been edited by INFERNO2000 (edited 01 April 2001).]

Apparently, my logic was faulty on my case choice that I picked up today at computer show. I drilled some holes right where a fan inside my case is--dropped the temp a little.
Funny, I thought a bigger case would be a bit cooler. Oh well, I'll just buy more fans then.
Just a word of warning to all cosidering full tower cases.

Hey, Pimpin, hows the computer coming along now?

i need a full tower case this fukin dell case is getting mighty cramped.

Well al i need right now is a mobo i am still waitin to get it and that is it but you all don't want to know what i am runnin now but i will tell you
pentium mmx 166
stick of 64
tnt riva 16 m vid card
maxtor hardrive
and everything ewlse is the same
it reallly sucks,but sorry i haven't been on in a couple of days

Yup, that would suck, considering what you can have...

and what im program you all use cause i want some aol names please

I dont use any instant messaging, and dont really care to use it anyway...I dont see the point, plus Im out for a lot of the day between work and college, and then I waste my study time here...maybe THAT's why my grades suck.

you don't say. no sh1t janet jackson

Well I've just finished a few upgrades on my system, so I'm gonna add the whole spec to the thread!!
And whay not I always say:

ASUS CUSL2 Black Pearl
PIII 1Ghz
512MB RAM (2x 256MB Crucial 2-2-2)
Gainward Ultra500 Golden Sample(GeForce 2 Ultra)
1x IBM 45GB ATA-100, 7200rpm (System Disk)
Promise FastTrak ATA-100 RAID Controller
2x IBM 45GB ATA-100, 7200rpm RAID 0
Adaptec 19160 SCSI Card
Pioneer 32x/6x SCSI DVD-ROM Drive
Yamaha CRW2100S (16x/10x/40x) SCSI CD-RW
Iomega ZIP100 (Internal SCSI)
SB Live! Value
Intel Pro 100 Management NIC
Iiyama Vision Master Pro. 410
All running under the excellent Windows 2000 SP1.

what are your 3d scores.and this thread is dieing badly come on fellows lets livin it up a bit

Here's my Duron system: 5326
My Pentium III system: 2129
On 3DMark2000.
Specs as currently set up below

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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@912
384MB PC 133 2-2-2
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100 5400RPM
Hercules Prophet II MX (core:210MHz ram:207MHz)
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Global WIN FOP 38
A ton of fans
Win2k Pro

Pentium III 667
Tyan Trinity 400
320MB SDRAM PC100/133 (mixed)
Toshiba 6x DVD-ROM
Western Digital 17.2GB ATA66 5400RPM hdd
WD 2.5GB ATA33 4500RPM hdd
Voodoo3 3000AGP w/TV-Out
SB 16 OEM PCI
SB compatibleISA sound card
Realtek 10/100 NIC
HP 1280 17" monitor
MS Intellimouse optical
PC Concepts wave keyboard
3-way speakers
Win2k Pro/WinME

"To be or not to be, that is the question."

[This message has been edited by Brian Frank (edited 04 April 2001).]

Well, now Im working on OCing the ol Duron 800 to 1GHz...yup Eddie, you were right, had to put the lead down thick. Ive got it at 950 MHz right now with no voltage adjustments. Im gonna try to get it to the gigahertz speed...hopefully I can make it. I dont expect more than a 200MHz overclock,but I'll see. Hehehehe.

Oh, yeah!!!!! 1GHz, baby!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont think I push my luck any more for the time being, but I'll see. I might push for 1.1 GHz, but I dont know how much I'll have to bump up the voltage. Ive got a Global Win FOP 38 and it seems to be doing alright, but I probably shouldnt push my luck. Oh well...See, Pimpin, how good of a deal you can get with the Durons? Just take care and buy a good cooler--no cheap sh*t, actually spend some good money on one...at least $20, but expect more like $25-$30 for starters. There is one mondo cooler from Swiftech that is $70, but it uses those four holes around the socket to be installed and you have to take your mobo out to put it on, but the cooling is damn good. Check out Toms Hardware for the cooler review.
Where I live, I was able to get my Global Win FOP 38 for $21 + tax, but dont go for some cheapo HSF or you'll be buying ANOTHER cpu, and of course that would suck big time.

Whoops!! Looks like I pushed my luck too far, wont run stable at 1GHz Oh well, 950 off of an 800MHz Duron is still pretty good for an overclock.

I wasnt betting on more than a 200MHz overclock in the first place anyhow, so Im not really all that surprised. Oh, well...

And strikeeeeee 3!!!! No go at 950! Damn! Oh well, I put it back to the 904MHz I already got...so close, yet so far...I think Im really to the point where it doesnt do me too much good to overclock much more than this and have a stable system.

isn't it hard to get that damned lead on those little contacts?!! I had a ***** of a time.

Yeah, had to use a magnifier to get it to go, but its all kinda wasted, but at least I know how far I can probably push the ol' Duron and I think Im not gonna get much more and still be stable. Oh well, it was kinda fun just to see it hit 1GHz, too bad I couldnt get it to stay.

I've made mention of the Faraday Systems ColdForge AA-15 a few pages back.

Tomorrow, 4/6/01 , is Cold Friday.

Sadly, it's not yet set for final release, but the final(?) prototype is done and has been shipped.

New pictures of the ColdForge will be posted at
www.hardforum.com (the forums of [H]ardOCP) in the "Cool Cases" section by Stiltner .

If you're as interested as I am in this uuber-kickass case, then..well...there's the latest info.

Yeah, by the pic I saw before its gonna be nice and big, unfortunately, my browser wont stay on it long enough for me to do anything...thanks dad, for trying to change the IP address, now some of MY bookmarked sites wont come up.
I may try to get it to go to 950MHz again and push the voltage up all the way, but Im not holding my breath for this one after what I just saw...but at least I unlocked the multiplier.

Okay i got the new mobo but there is a conflict some where. i dunno what or where?
when i plug the floppy ide in it won't start up.okay when i unplug that and plug the ide in for my burner and dvd in won't boot up but if i run the dvd by it's self works i got the dvd set as master and the burner set as slave,but when i had just the dvd in and set as csel it work what do you all think the pro. is?
new system specs
amd-athlon-850
abit-kt7a-raid
mtec 256 megs of ram
genaric 5x dvd
pacific digital 4x burner
yamaha sound card
geforce 2 mx
us robotics modem
do you all see anyconflicts?and it is thursday nite and ed if you see this get on

Make sure the IDE and Floppy ribbons arent cut or stripped ANYWHERE! Also try having the Burner on one IDE channel and the DVD on another. Then have your hard drive hooked up to the RAID (copy the files for the RAID controller over to a floppy).

All the ide's are brand new but so try settin the hardrive in one of the raid ide's

Well ed and me got the comp runnin right now but thanks for the info

me and ed got the comp runnin right but thanks for the info

yea, still got a bottleneck with the damned harddrive, got 2819 3DMarks on 3dmark 2000 with standard tests, gonna try tweaking it later.

yea alittle windows tweakin and sime other stuff

Also, look for a little program called RegCompact, I think I got it off of PCWorld's download center... anyway, it compacts the registry and that does a lot for you in speed. Also, get the Disk Keeper 6.0, or the trial and get a for it, as that is the best defragger out there.

Side note: I can get it to run at 950MHz, but I have to set my cas timings to 3 instead of 2, and the performance is slightly less than when Im OC by the FSB and setting my cas to 2. No matter what, I cant get it to boot up properly half the time and if I do, it usually knocks out on me--voltage change or no, still nada.
I still may go to 950 just for the hell of it and then play with the cas settings to see if I can get one of the three settings to 2 instead of 3 and have a stable system.
It'll be interesting...

Oh, yeah!1Gigahertz, baby!!!

Actually 998~999MHz...CLOSE ENOUGH!!!

Unless...does anyone know the 112FSB setting for the 4 dip switches on the Asus A7V (KT133 chipset)?

well i can't help you there but the beast is runnin like a champ it runs qIII like nothin and it is stable but when i first got it runnin it had little problem recanizing the cd rom but it is fine now

Just checkin', cuz the mobo manuals dont always show all the dip switch settings.
Im trying to see how far up I can go before things lock up. I have the ram set to 133MHz so any FSB over 100MHz will raise the ram above 133MHz. Right now Im at a 107MHz FSB and a 9.5 multiplier. This seems to be running okay right now and has the best chance for increasing the bandwith over 1GHz.
No matter how hard I try the limit seems to be 1050MHz, but I'll have to see how close I can get to that w/o crashing.

Bandwith plays a MUCH bigger role than the clock multiplier. Ive run some Sandra memory and cpu benchmarks and it just uses half the available ram and Im on par with the 1GHz T-Bird and P!!! 1GHz.

Bandwith is life!!

well i wish i had a asus so i wish i could help but i am sorry

Well, we cant all have the same mobo. Oh well, I got it to 1016MHz with just a little voltage bump, any way I try to go past that is just not stable enough and will eventually crash. Mmmmmm...gigahertz!

Im trying to get my pc to stay above 5500 in 3dmark 2000...almost there.

Hey one ,ore post to my number

Yea 228 baby lets talk about 228 228 yea 228

Now its finished with a high score in 3dmark 2000 of 5611


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Whaazzzupppppppppp!
Asus A7V
Duron 800@1016MHz
384MB PC 133
Samsung 48x CD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM
Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6
Zip 100 USB
Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100 5400RPM
Hercules Prophet II MX (core:220MHz ram:210MHz)
Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo
SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter
D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC
Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000
MS Intellimouse Optical
Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop
Global WIN FOP 38
Win2k Pro

[This message has been edited by Brian Frank (edited 09 April 2001).]

How do you get the 3dmarks up there like that

Just to clarify what Im benchmarking with: 3dMark 2000 NOT 2001.

And the answer--overclocking and some tweaks.
There's some good ones in X-teq X-Setup.
A lot of it has to do with things being cached. And that helps big time, some more than others. Also, there's probably a ton of crap that goes on startup, and X-Setup can clear those buggers away. I might be able to get higher, but I refuse to disable my firewall and completely shutdown my antivirus, though I do disable that for the time being.
I benchmark right after a restart when resources havent been used hardly.

There a little registry tweak with Max Cached Icons.

In the registry go to HKey_Local_Machine--Software--Microsoft--Windows--Current Version--Explorer. Only in the Explorer folder, though, not one below it. And add the registry string Max Cached Icons just like I put it with the spaces. Then modify it by right clicking and hit Modify, and set the value to 8000. I, in my quest for more power have 95000, but Im not sure how much thats really doing stuff for me.

I dont really know the reason having stuff cached speeds things up, but I just know regardless the reason, it works very well.

Also, memory bandwith plays a BIG part in the grand scheme of things. With my ram at 100MHz in bios I could overclock the FSB up to 113MHz, only limited by the KT133 chipset, and have no stability issues. I have my ram now running at the 133MHz and my FSB at 107MHz. When I had my ram at 100MHz, no problems going to 113MHz FSB, but when I went to 133MHz ram, the ram wouldnt overclock too much so I guess its running at 140MHz, and 256MBs of it are some generic ram too. Anyway, my 3dmark scores jumped considerably due to bandwith. Thats why the 1.2GHz T-birds with the 12x100 mulitplier are beaten out by the 1.2 GHz T-Birds at the 9x133 multiplier. Its all because of bandwith. And that is the best thing Ive found to work.

I don't have it yet...but...here's my new stuff:

Adaptec 29160 SCSI 3 adapter
2(+?) Ultra 160 SCSI Drives...18 GB, 10k or 15k RPM...

? Ultra 2 scsi drives ?????rpm gb

Plextor 12x10x32s SCSI CDRW.

Of course, I'm selling my rig to pay for it, but oh well

that Plextor is a damned good cdrw, i got the EIDE version and i have never had a problem with it.

Updated System Specs and 3DMarks. Due to the hard drive being my system's bottleneck, 3DMark 2000 and 2001 scores are low.
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MotherBoard - Abit VH6 Socket 370 (1 AMR, 1 AGP, 5 PCI, 1 ISA)
Fan/Cooling - (CPU) Alpha PEP66T Heatsink with 38cfm Fan (12vDC)
Processor(s) - Intel Pentium III 667@750MHz (150MHz*5)
Hard Drive - Seagate U Series 30.6GB 5400rpm IDE (Primary Master)
Memory - 256MB Total. Two Sticks 128MB, SDRAM PC133 CAS2 168pin DIMM
Video Card - Hercules 3D Prophet II MX 32MB AGP o/c'ed (Core-210mhz, ram-220mhz)
Modem - Phoebe Micro 56K V.90 PCI
Sound Card - VIA Audio (OnBoard)
MPEG Decoder - Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus! PCI
Ethernet Adapter - RealTek 8029(AS) 10BaseT Ethernet Adapter
Removeable Storage - Mitsumi 3.5" Floppy Drive
DVD-ROM - Pioneer DVD-115 16x DVD ROM Drive IDE (Secondary Master)
CD-RW - Plextor Plexwriter 12x/10x/32x CD-RW Drive IDE (Secondary Slave)
Extra Fan - Intake Fan (22cfm) Modded into side of case.
Operating System - Windows 2000 Professional 5.00.2195.1;SP1
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Standard Benchmarks!
3dMark2000 - 4291
3dMark2001 - 3026

Had to drop my ram from 211 to 210, unfortunately. You sure its your hard drive there, eddie, cuz ive got a 5400 rpm drive too and I score in the 5500~5600's with my oc and tweaks. Maxtor drives are pretty fast in the 5400rpm range, according to this one pcworld article I saw. Of course that is one article, but it did put the Seagate drives as some of the slowest.
Wow, I mustve done some serious tweaking to get this good of a score with what Ive got.

I'd love to OC my P3 667 on my Tyan Trinity, but I dont think that board was ever intended for OCing.

So, pimpin, hows your scores doin there?

Ahh, my 3dmark2001 score: 2970.

Went and bought a Leadtek Geforce 2 MX card and thought I'd post my 3D Mark Scores as well:

Athlon TBird 800@800
AOpen AK73 Pro
256MB (128 pc100 + 128 pc133)
Maxtor 7200 UDMA ATA100 15Gig
Leadtek Winfast Geforce 2 MX SH Pro 32MB 5ns Memory (220 core / 210 memory)
Detonator 6.66

3DMark 2000
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1024*768 16Bit 5334
1024*768 32Bit 3955

3DMark 2001
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1024*768 16Bit 2439
1024*768 32Bit 2204

eddie: strange how your are getting low scores in 2000 while getting pretty good score in 2001

Damn! I must have really tweaked my system out! 8)

Well am i glad that everyone isgettin their systems tweaked and runnin good now how could i tweak my system for i higher 3d mark score and i mean anytweaks at all will help

Well, I assume you're gonna overclock, and here's the best advice I can give you. Do it by both the mulitplier and the FSB.
It helps a lot if you have PC133 SDRAM for this to work.

You should be able to get a 200 MHz jump with a Duron or Athlon.

Here's the way I have my Duron 800 set up to 1016MHz.
The mulitplier is 9.5 and the FSB is 107, but Im willing to bet its because of the memory not being able to be pushed that high.
Also, this plays a major part in my overclocking, I have the ram set to 133MHz in BIOS. Keep in mind that you may not be able to do everything I am with the Abit board youve got. I know this worked for me.
Bandwith is everything if you want a hell of a machine, pimpin, thats the biggest part of my speed right there.

Also, there's this little program called Reg Compact, and its basically a compresser/defragger for the registry. It makes it smaller, and if the registry is all together, your system will run better.
I believe I got it from www.pcworld.com under the dowloads section.

Of course, overclocking your video card does help. Just pay attention to artifacts, which may look like snow, if the memory starts getting clocked too high. Most GeForce 2 MX cards should be able to hit 220MHz on the core and 210 MHz on the ram w/o a problem. I suggest the Hercules Prophet 2 MX, dont go with the GF2MX 400 card though, as it only gives an insignificant boost over the regular MX and is at $150 while the plain old MX is about $100.

Keep your hard drive defragged.

Your virtual memory should be set between 1.5x RAM to 2x RAM. However, this is debatable, so some people might not agree with it. Its one of those things that you should go with what works for you.

I have my hard drive partitioned and have a separate 1GB partition set off for my virtual memory.

Also, grap Xteq Xsetup, as there's a ton of tweaks to be had in there.

Heres the link to RegCompact.

http://www.pcworld.com/resource/redir/redirtoken.asp?tk=HS-041301X7718

Enjoy.

Brian thanks for the info you helped alot man

No problem. I do have some bios tweaks, but I dont know if they would be there for you.

Try some bios settings and see what they do for you as something that might work for me may not be the best for you.

Oh, yeah, the 12.00 Dets are out, and they're a tad faster.

where can i get them drivers at

http://www.the-ctrl-alt-del.com/

They seem to have the latest drivers for video cards. Be aware, these are in beta form, but I havent had problems.

Usually when i see "post your systems" threads I just look through them to see what everyones got going, I think they are a little silly: ) But I was about to do this today anyways in an excell spreadsheet so ill just do it in here too since the hard part is remembering what is in each system. Let the fun begin:

Maximus (main system used for quake 3 only)
MOBO: MSI K7T Turbo-R
PROC: AMD Thunderbird 1.33 Ghz
HEATSINK: Swiftech MC462-A
RAM: Generic PC133 (768 MEGS)
VIDEO CARD: MSI Starforce 815 (geforce GTS)
SOUND CARD: Soundblaster Live Platinum
HD: Quantum Atlas 10k II 18.2 GB SCSI (two)
CD/CDR/DVD: Creative 12X DVD
NIC(S): SMC EZ10/100
CASE: 3DCOOL Tornado 1000
MOUSE: Logitech Wingman Gaming Mouse
KB: Microsoft Internet KB
MONITOR: Cybervision 19"
OTHER
SCSI CONTROLLER: Adaptec 29160N
SPEAKERS: Cambridege Soundworks DTT3500

Cleopatra (secondary system for messin round)
MOBO: MSI K7T Pro2A
PROC: AMD Duron 700 Mhz (RMAing a 1.2 tbird)
HEATSINK: Kaine Hedgehog
RAM: Kingmax TinyBGA PC133 (256 MEGS)
VIDEO CARD: ASUS v6800 Pure (geforce DDR)
SOUND CARD: Soundblaster Live Value
HD: Maxtor 10 GB
CD/CDR/DVD: Kenwood TrueX 72X
Generic 4X burner
NIC(S): SMC EZ10/100
CASE: INWIN (watever cant remeber name: )
MOUSE: Intellimouse Explorer
KB: Generic KB
MONITOR: 17" Generic (Cant remember name)
OTHER
WEBCAM: Logitech Webcam Pro

Sparticus (server)
MOBO: MSI 6309
PROC: Intel PIII 600E
HEATSINK: Golden ORB
RAM: Generic PC100 (128 MEGS)
VIDEO CARD: Matrox G200
SOUND CARD: NONE
HD: Maxtor 7.2 GB
CD/CDR/DVD: Generic 36X
NIC(S): SMC EZ10/100 (two)
CASE: Antec (cant rember model)
MOUSE: Intellimouse Pro
KB: Gateway2000 KB
MONITOR: NONE

these things are all very loud, the room they are in sounds like someone is vac