[Vampyr]

Now for a limited time only when you purchase your favorite flavour of Win2K server line you will get your choice of security hole!!! Whether it be DoS vulnerability, or the ever so exciting ActiveX vulnerability! Act now!

[jdulmage]

firewall usually protects against that and Malicilous ActiveX is stopped by most Anti-virus software. I haven't had a major security breech on windows since 1998

[Vampyr]

Statistics show that a majority of hacked webservers were win2k servers.

[INFERNO2000]

Statistics also show that people don't like 2K bashing on a 2K-fan board.
Moron.

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[clutch]

What statistics were these? Where did you get them? How about statistics showing which OS has the most "zombies" to their credit for DoS attacks? Holes are everywhere, that's how it is. You patch them and move on. Like the Notes hole found recently that allowed anyone with normal mail access to access any account on the server. That was a real winner. If you don't care for Windows, then why come here?

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clutch

[whoisurdaddy]

Vampyr, are you saying that other OSes don't have holes? Hmm...wasn't there a virus written for Linux like 2 weeks ago? When you write OS like Win2k w/ millions of lines of codes of course there will be bugs. Don't tell me you can write a program that big without any flaws. But the bottom line is I think that you are posting this topic to piss off everyone here.

[This message has been edited by whoisurdaddy (edited 26 January 2001).]

[jdulmage]

well, I think he was doing this to piss us off. He thinks that something like Linux is flawless? there are probably more holes in it, they just haven't been found. Most people don't understand why Windows has the bugs, well, it's very simple, no beta tester and no MS people found that bug during testing stages, it's eventually found and a patch comes out. It'll be much easier with Windows Whistler, because you have the option to send a bug report in, which means, service packs and patches come out faster.

[Down8]

Well, technically, you've always had the ability to turn in a bug report, you just had to be un-lazy enough to go to their web site and do it.

Also, I'm theorizing that the 'File a bug report' link in the betas of Whistler is only for the betas, as that is what betas are for. Can you imagine how many bug report MS would get every hour? They don't have that kind of mail server capacity.

-bZj

[EddiE314]

Haha, Inferno2k called him a Moron, good job!
I hate 2k bashers, like Ryan "Lamer" Hart.

[OLEerror]

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">He thinks that something like Linux is flawless? there are probably more holes in it, they just haven't been found. </font>

Actually, they have been found. And are widely known. Linux has holes in it big enough to drive a truck through. And they can't really be patched without crippling the OS. Linux has all of the failings of UNIX. It just isn't publicized as much because the market share is so small. Now, if Microsoft ever brought out MS Linux, you'd see the bugs receive a lot of press time.

[pimpin_228]

So what there is a couple of bugs,if you can fix them who cares

[Brian Frank]

Yeah, every OS has its own share of problems. Even though MS does do a thorough check of their OSs before offically releasing them, they'll still have some sort of problem. Id say its just due to the fact that Windows is the most prominant OS along with MS being the biggest software company. People probably hacked it just for the thrill of hacking Microsoft. I like Linux and all, but the networking is a snap on Win2k. Plus, Linux requires a bit more knowledge of the OS. When Linux gets to a place where it is much easier to use as a home OS, things might go the way of the Penguin. However right now MS has a the upper hand by a lot. Lets face it, I havent really seen to many programs out at Best Buy for Linux. Ive seen about the same amount out for the Mac too. When Linux gets to a point where there is an entire aisle set aside for Linux software, then we'll talk about the superior OS factor. Linux may be more stable than any of MS offerings, but pick any Windows version and it will be easier to use than Linux.
Most computer users wont care about the OS on their PC as long as it lets them do their stuff. For us techno geeks and nerds, we do. But we're not the majority of the population.

[RattDawg]

Yup, when the majority of systems run Windows commen sence says that they will be hacked into more. Duh!

[felix]

What pisses me off is Novell users who believe all the ghost stories Novell plants spread.

They then attempt to argue that Novell is a better system simply because they've heard that Win2k crahed one time because of drivers.

As far as I'm concerned, it's not MS' fault, it's the lamer hardware companies who write sh1tty drivers that do things they shouldn't.

A prime case of this is the drivers that have been released for my LifeView FlyVideo. The previous version simply crahed my comp whenever I tried to access video properties.

Perhaps it's time for hardware to stop telling lies about MS and admit that it's their smackhead drivers that fork up people's systems.

MS provides them with the OS specs, how haed could it be to stick with them.

Here ends the soapbox rant.

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[RattDawg]

I hear you there. Win 2k is a great os. Shi**y half @ss drivers from hardware venders kill it. That should change though with XP on the horizon they will be forced to optimize drivers

[BladeRunner]

Oh aren't Novell Administrators the best!!
I've had the pleasure to have known a couple, one who refuses to install any other server OS except Novell.
Now, here's the great thing.
Ever since Win2k & AD were repleased hystoricaly Novell only sites have been jumping ship - and fast.
AD isn't yet as powerfull as NDS, but it's close enough and the Novell boys are moving over to Win2k.
It isn't going to be long until Novell appears as a 'For Sale' company.

[pimpin_228]

I guesse so

[Tim Bazzinett]

Blade Runner, I know what you mean. Arent Novell Admin's pretty closed minded? I worked as a tech for a bank that was novell powered. The admin there was so pleasing that he was the main cause for a few disgruntled employees to quite (me included). His last words to me were "Have fun with your MS world!". Well, I wouldnt want it any different.

[Brian Frank]

Hmm...Windows 2000 is more popular, has better support, easy networking, stability.
I havent ever used Novell, but Ive seen more of BeOS than that, not that I care for BeOS, but Ive seen more books out for BeOS or Linux than for Novell.
Even if Novell is a superior OS, there diddly squat for it. Any OS has flaws, but MS is at the top by a big shot. Ive heard Windows in general runs on 90% of all computers combined. I like Linux, and Im very sure its here to stay, but Windows is a safe haven and I am very impressed with it.
Id really like to see Novell being supported enough to have Dell preinstall it on servers, just like Linux. Id say the d e a d OS award goes to Novell.

[This message has been edited by Brian Frank (edited 28 March 2001).]