Why does linux suck?
Posted 16 October 2004 - 08:31 PM
Now to conclude my adventure with linux, its hard to learn, hard to install, not that mcuh faster then windows, imposible to get new software on it, and the games out there are null...
BUT fear not because today is another adventure! (I never give up)
P.S. gentoos instuction to install gentoo are AWESOME. Its the only guide/tutorial out there I've seen not totaly made for linux guru's.
Posted 17 October 2004 - 12:17 AM
No wonder you are having trouble! That's quite a list! Don't expect Peanut or DSL to run well, from what I know abour your system so far. These distros are lightweight and don't have the features that you would need for a fully functioning system, especially for games and such. Mandrake will take care of the dependency issues for you if you use the control center/install software tool to add the apps that you need off the cd.
The problems occur when you add apps. that are not included with Mandrake. This can be frustrating, but if you are not dedicated to learn the syntax, then it may not be worth it for you.
Most of the apps. that you need are on the cd's that you burned, if they were not already installed during the install of Mandrake.
Don't expect older distros to work well as well, since you have newer hardware. I would imagine you would have problems installing Windows 95 on your system as well.
Maybe you can start with what you are looking to do on your system, then we can suggest ways to go.
I would also look into the live cd versions of Linux. This way you get an idea of what a typical install has, without actually doing the install yet. Kinda like a preview of Linux. Knoppix and Mepis are both good ones.
Posted 17 October 2004 - 01:16 AM
Posted 17 October 2004 - 04:03 AM
its not that i want something easy is just that i dont want something imposible... i just tryed to install gentoo again. and i got futher on the boot-up this time. but it says...
checking all filesystems...
the superblock could not read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. if the device is valid and it really contains a ext2 filesystem (and not swap or something), then the superblock is currupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 <devices>
*fsck could not correct all errors, manual repair needed
give root password for maintenence
(or type Control-D for normal startup):
Well im mad. i hope someone helps me fast. i might try to install debian again... i REALLY dont feel like downloading ANOTHER distro. but i guess ill start one now of mepis or ubuntu!!! thank you for your input!
Posted 17 October 2004 - 04:09 AM
Posted 17 October 2004 - 04:44 AM
Posted 17 October 2004 - 07:55 AM
there are several times i cant get into any of the X after i have installed my mandrake 9.1..guess wat? i went back to my windows XP, format the harddisk that i have used to install linux, and reinstall the mandrake 9.1 again..
it will somehow give you basically what you want after several times of installation...
Posted 17 October 2004 - 08:31 AM
How are you formatting your partitions before every install, or are you just trying to overwrite each installation on the partition that had a previous install already on it?
Are you allowing gentoo or the distro install utility to partition and format the drive?
Are you using the entire drive for the install, or allowing one single partition to be used? Do you have Windows XP on the system?
Also, post some specs. on your system, especially the monitor and video card that you are using? Posting the motherboard model or system type may help us sort this out as well. X problems often point to video card or monitor setting issues.
Posted 17 October 2004 - 08:52 PM
sorry it was so indepth. i had to open computer to figure it out and i think its best for me to write down all i can incase i even need to use it.
i also have a problem with geting ANY linux to work on my laptop (which is how i write to you guys) and im pretty touchy with it and i dont want to mess anything up on it.
it is a compaq nx9010 intel penitum 4 2.8 ghz, 190 MB of ddr ram. (266?) radeon igp 345m chip type rs200m AGP. DAC type is internal DAC(400mhz)64.0 MB.
Thank you direct x.
So some help with that might be nice too. currently it has xp pro on it and takes whole drive.
Posted 17 October 2004 - 10:16 PM
Posted 18 October 2004 - 02:14 AM
The Evo, this is a desktop model?
You are running two different speeds and brands (yes, I know Compaq and HP are now the same company) of ram? This may be an issue with stability and install issues. I would pull ome of the sticks out and see how the system responds. Are both these sticks certified to run on the Evo?
In terms of the laptop, Mandrake will not run well on less than 128 mb of ram. The graphical install requires at least this much. The only distros that I have seen run Ok on systems with this amount of ram, are the lightweights, like Puppy, DSL...
And beware. The recent distos, like Mandrake and Fedora with the 2.6 kernel series have issues installing next to MTFS windows XP partitions, where Windows becomes unbootable. So, I guess it's good that you have not messed with this laptop yet. What does the laptop have on it now as an OS?
Also, Libranet might work. It does on my laptop, in fact well with 64 mb installed and using IceWM as the desktop GUI.
The other issue are the ATI Radeon cards. A lot of folks have problems with these and Linux. This may be the source of any issues that you have with installing, or getting X up. I always use NVIDIA cards wich all work well in Linux. I also have one S3 card that works well with Limspire and Libranet.
Posted 18 October 2004 - 05:37 AM
Posted 18 October 2004 - 06:01 AM
Posted 18 October 2004 - 06:15 AM
any one remember our parents faces with DOS????
come on we took to it like there was nothing to it
played doom wolfenstien etc etc etc.
the only secret you need with linux is this
....."dont forget to install the "midnight commander" aka mc"
file browser , file editor, has commands built it to do anything you want with a file compressed or otherwise.
allows you to view whats inside an rpm before you install it
so you can actually finf the executable afterwards..... etc etc
its only as hard as what you make it.thats the one thing ive never seen in any advice. vi sucks for a newb. joe is kinda bad.
when you need to edit outside of x(which is something youll need to do allot of while getting x to run) use mc, highlite the file and press f4 . works just like a dos editor.
any way the only real prob ive got is morons thinking windblows
is the only os that will ever want to use thier freakin hardware.
thats all for now. remember ...........install mc
Posted 18 October 2004 - 06:41 AM
well in linux they actually give you the tools and source to change what you want/need to suit your needs, if you think about it its worth the trouble/learning curve, you could easily spend thousands of dollars trying to come up with the same software for windows. your completly cover for any thing from web server to developement env. and with kick ass guys out there like those from "id software" (doom 3 actually runs a little faster on my pc////dual boot/(some games as you know....)/////when in linux than in windows.) you can have the source to make it go, heck
ive had more problems with windows than i ever did with linux.
with linux it was something that "I" did not a fluctuation in the stock of ms in the middle of jan, that caused the useless
dlls in my precious ram to act up makong me want to run out and buy the more stable much faster version of windows(all the while knowing that they are releasing it before testing it out on real situations, like a computer actually connected to the internet with a live person doing stupid stuff on it)
sorry guys. i like linux, some may not. but if i can fix the prob on my own id like to.
not wait patiently for the next hot fix to come and rescue me from my woes.
Posted 18 October 2004 - 07:16 AM
But alas there is one problem i have yet to conquer. my wireless network card doesnt work on my laptop. i have a bcm94306 802.1g broadcom built into it. ive search for alot of answeres but.... having little luck. but i guess i can just have this cord on my laptop! im just ssoo happy. its really beautiful...
Posted 18 October 2004 - 02:33 PM