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Hi Gang,
I think this will probably come in handy for most technicians. MS just released (12/16/03) a 6 floppy bootable corrupt registry repair tool for Windows 2000 variants only:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;830570
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Christian Blackburn
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MS Released a floppy based corrupt Registry Repair Utility
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 06:54 AM
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 07:44 AM
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Heh, if you are stuck with a blown registry? This might be the ticket out... & if it's already messed up, this probably couldn't hurt it anymore anyhow! apk
I agree... I took the specifying of Win2000, SP2, and SP3 to mean if you use it on SP4 would be bad juju. The date on the page is from September 23rd... SP4 was out for a while at that point if I remember correctly.
I have a test system w/SP4 on it. If no one calls me away tomorrow I'll run it on that system. If it goes up in flames I'll let you guys know
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Posted 22 December 2003 - 02:26 PM
Hi Duhmez,
I totally agree with you. While I don't mind bootable single floppies, I always prefer a bootable CD option since CDs are more reliable and provide far faster data access (boot times). However in this whopping 6 CD instance that's just a pain in the arse. When will companies get with the times. It's not like Microsoft doesn't have the technology, I mean every OS since Windows 98 has been CD bootable and perhaps Win95 C was (did anyone ever use that? I used it, but it was so long ago I can't remember). It's not like we used it that much though since the Win95C user base was microscopic. ) However I think chronologically Windows 98 was actually released before Windows 95 C to have something to market to those that were afraid of trying Windows 98.
Hey speaking of computer company names starting with Micro. Does anyone else find it hysterical that there's a company called MicroAdvantage? Or how about a line of CPU fans with Beta as the product-line name
. I can't think of who makes them, but I know a computer I just worked on had one and I thought it was too much 
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Cheers,
Christian Blackburn
I totally agree with you. While I don't mind bootable single floppies, I always prefer a bootable CD option since CDs are more reliable and provide far faster data access (boot times). However in this whopping 6 CD instance that's just a pain in the arse. When will companies get with the times. It's not like Microsoft doesn't have the technology, I mean every OS since Windows 98 has been CD bootable and perhaps Win95 C was (did anyone ever use that? I used it, but it was so long ago I can't remember). It's not like we used it that much though since the Win95C user base was microscopic. ) However I think chronologically Windows 98 was actually released before Windows 95 C to have something to market to those that were afraid of trying Windows 98.
Hey speaking of computer company names starting with Micro. Does anyone else find it hysterical that there's a company called MicroAdvantage? Or how about a line of CPU fans with Beta as the product-line name
. I can't think of who makes them, but I know a computer I just worked on had one and I thought it was too much . Cheers,
Christian Blackburn
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 01:15 AM
Not that it necessarily means anything, I did run it on my test system (Win2k w/SP4). No obvious damage was done to the registry. YMMV.
6 floppies... by the time you download this, create the disks (hope none of the floppies flake out, disk 3 died on me had to start over from beginning) boot the system with said floppies... took me about 30 minutes. This is something that really does need to be made in .iso format and run from cd.
it is a pretty handy thing though, thanks for the link!
6 floppies... by the time you download this, create the disks (hope none of the floppies flake out, disk 3 died on me had to start over from beginning) boot the system with said floppies... took me about 30 minutes. This is something that really does need to be made in .iso format and run from cd.
it is a pretty handy thing though, thanks for the link!
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 05:36 AM
Hi Mezron,
You're quite welcome for the link. I would recommend running SP4 again now that you have repaired your registry. Often with each service pack Microsoft ads new features and therefore registry settings. Since the repair utility officially only suppports SP3 I think it would be a good idea to play it safe. Also Alec, I wanted to mention that it would be a quite risky to run this on any other OS. With each new version of Windows there are major changes to the hardware abstraction layer, this typically means changes in the registry layout. For example both OS's recently shipped USB 2.0 supporting updates. They were however different for each OS. Sure some hardware will work flawlessly with XP without new drivers, but that certainly isn't the case across the board. Okay so your hardware won't work quite right, but each new version of Windows also has tons of new features so you might be missing registry settings for a particular OS component. However, I don't think that this tool would do a full reset on your registry unless things were really bad, so provided you backup first it might be an okay idea to run this on XP or 2K3, since it may just remove corrupt values. However, I would backup first. If the tool removes the corrupt registry settings and a WinXP or Win2K3 system still won't boot then I would run the installation program and perhaps it'd fix whatever was missing without loosing a bunch of application configuration info. However everyone here probably already knows that re-installation would be the safest solution for XP, and especially 2K3.
What are you doing for Christmas Alec? You have a new lady friend now don't you. Or did you get married. I think I've forgotten. I just started dating this gorgeous lawyer, she's amazing I'm going jogging with her in a little bit so I better shut up and take a nap first. For those of you who are curious she's a tall blond, thin/fit, vegan.
Merry Christmas Everyone
(cue fake emotional holiday tears)
Cheers,
Christian Blackburn
You're quite welcome for the link. I would recommend running SP4 again now that you have repaired your registry. Often with each service pack Microsoft ads new features and therefore registry settings. Since the repair utility officially only suppports SP3 I think it would be a good idea to play it safe. Also Alec, I wanted to mention that it would be a quite risky to run this on any other OS. With each new version of Windows there are major changes to the hardware abstraction layer, this typically means changes in the registry layout. For example both OS's recently shipped USB 2.0 supporting updates. They were however different for each OS. Sure some hardware will work flawlessly with XP without new drivers, but that certainly isn't the case across the board. Okay so your hardware won't work quite right, but each new version of Windows also has tons of new features so you might be missing registry settings for a particular OS component. However, I don't think that this tool would do a full reset on your registry unless things were really bad, so provided you backup first it might be an okay idea to run this on XP or 2K3, since it may just remove corrupt values. However, I would backup first. If the tool removes the corrupt registry settings and a WinXP or Win2K3 system still won't boot then I would run the installation program and perhaps it'd fix whatever was missing without loosing a bunch of application configuration info. However everyone here probably already knows that re-installation would be the safest solution for XP, and especially 2K3.
What are you doing for Christmas Alec? You have a new lady friend now don't you. Or did you get married. I think I've forgotten. I just started dating this gorgeous lawyer, she's amazing I'm going jogging with her in a little bit so I better shut up and take a nap first. For those of you who are curious she's a tall blond, thin/fit, vegan.
Merry Christmas Everyone
(cue fake emotional holiday tears)Cheers,
Christian Blackburn
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 05:56 AM
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Hi Mezron,
You're quite welcome for the link. I would recommend running SP4 again now that you have repaired your registry. Often with each service pack Microsoft ads new features and therefore registry settings. Since the repair utility officially only suppports SP3 I think it would be a good idea to play it safe.
You're quite welcome for the link. I would recommend running SP4 again now that you have repaired your registry. Often with each service pack Microsoft ads new features and therefore registry settings. Since the repair utility officially only suppports SP3 I think it would be a good idea to play it safe.
Actually, that is a good piece of advice. This machine is just for testing things like this on though so I'm not too concerned. It rarely goes more than a week or two without being re-imaged. I was more interested to see if it does any obvious damage to a SP4 install. Maybe tomorrow I'll install XP on it and run this tool on it just to see what happens :x
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 09:30 AM
At least the registry is really easy to backup on an already dead machine...
oh wait No it isn't.......
no xcopy from recovery console. No access outside of \ and %systemroot% by default
no saving files to floppy..... (for fixing boot.ini etc..... not for the registry per se)
No txt editor.
I look and the recovery console, and look at the price tag of the server software, and I shake my hed in disbelief.
Then a 6 floppy registry repairer comes out....
Does no one at m$ USE their products?
Go ahead, try to copy a file from the hard drive to a floppy. can't be done.
Windows recovery has got a long way to go that's for sure.
oh wait No it isn't.......
no xcopy from recovery console. No access outside of \ and %systemroot% by default
no saving files to floppy..... (for fixing boot.ini etc..... not for the registry per se)
No txt editor.
I look and the recovery console, and look at the price tag of the server software, and I shake my hed in disbelief.
Then a 6 floppy registry repairer comes out....
Does no one at m$ USE their products?
Go ahead, try to copy a file from the hard drive to a floppy. can't be done.
Windows recovery has got a long way to go that's for sure.
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 11:37 AM
Hi Duhmez,
You hit the nail on the head. In my opinion they could improve on the recovery console by embellishing a copy of DOS with a menu, some updated utils, and of course NTFS support. How about Regedit for dos? That'd be hella cool. I keep hoping the FreeDos project will take on that task (a dos-based registry editor). Does anyone know of any non commercial dos-based registry editors?
Okay how about good commerical ones?
I think SysInternals and Touchstone's CheckIT both offer bootable registry editing.
Cheers,
Christian Blackburn
You hit the nail on the head. In my opinion they could improve on the recovery console by embellishing a copy of DOS with a menu, some updated utils, and of course NTFS support. How about Regedit for dos? That'd be hella cool. I keep hoping the FreeDos project will take on that task (a dos-based registry editor). Does anyone know of any non commercial dos-based registry editors?
Okay how about good commerical ones?
I think SysInternals and Touchstone's CheckIT both offer bootable registry editing.
Cheers,
Christian Blackburn
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 05:35 PM
It's not DOS based, but Bart's PE Builder is looking pretty promising as a recovery tool
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
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Posted 07 January 2004 - 01:47 AM
Hi Alec,
Wow Queens eh. I guess I forgot you live in NY. The only time I ever saw Queens was in Coming to America. Are you in search of a fitting princess there too?
Wow so your job involves a lot of travel these days. That can be good and bad it all depends on how often, your personal outlook on the situation, and the status of your romantic relationships. What are they having you code in these days? Did you ever get the hang of Inno Setup?
I never did learn ISPP (the Inno Setup Pre-Processor, it'll take a look at the versions of your main binary and append that to the file name of your installer for example). However I did learn Innerfuse Pascal which has been helping me with Delphi too. I joined the Syn Text Editor Project on SourceForge which is a Delphi 5-7 project. see http://Syn.SourceFore.net. It's a great little program and their use of the system tray icon is revolutionary in my opinion. That's the part of the application I'm working on, but I'm just fixing bugs and trying to figure out what Stefan's code does in his system tray application at this point. I just fixed it so that when explorer crashes the tray icon will re-add itself to the system tray. I was using Delphi 7 Personal Edition, a copy I got with PC Plus, a magazine I had to
import from the UK, just to get a copy cheap. However Borland quite prudently in my opinion no longer offers patches to now paying users, so I'd have to buy D7 PE if I wanted to patch it and make a decent stable binary or code in a decent stable IDE for that matter. Delphi 7 kept displaying about 4 error messages in a row while using Find and replace. I'm sure that was one of the first bugs fixed in their usual onslaught of post release fixes. So I reverted to Delphi 6 PE which does allow updates, what I'll loose in features, I hope to gain in stability and lack of frustation.
Happy new year back! Since XMas is long gone at this point
Yes I do think love and friendship are what life is really about. I am thorougly enjoying my time with Lisa and while at times I wonder whether we are ultimately right for each other, I know that I could probably spend the rest of my life with her and be happy.
Last night I saw this funny add on SourceForge, and their punchline was SourceForge Personals, because you can't code a girlfriend. I laughed and thought how true that was, and how lucky I consider myself at the moment to have one, since I rarely seem to .
My new girlfriend is an environmental lawyer, a vegan (not a raw foodist like me though), tall, thin, fit, and beautiful. She's also kind-hearted, has a positive attitude, intelligent, get's my jokes, and loves to go jogging with me. She's 30 and I'm 24, which some people frown upon, but I don't mind, six years isn't much in the scheme of things.
Well keep your stick on the ice,
Christian Blackburn
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Working mostly, new job in new place (N.Y. City Queens area).
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when I travel for work, this is me... or as best as I can make myself get to that mark that is.
I never did learn ISPP (the Inno Setup Pre-Processor, it'll take a look at the versions of your main binary and append that to the file name of your installer for example). However I did learn Innerfuse Pascal which has been helping me with Delphi too. I joined the Syn Text Editor Project on SourceForge which is a Delphi 5-7 project. see http://Syn.SourceFore.net. It's a great little program and their use of the system tray icon is revolutionary in my opinion. That's the part of the application I'm working on, but I'm just fixing bugs and trying to figure out what Stefan's code does in his system tray application at this point. I just fixed it so that when explorer crashes the tray icon will re-add itself to the system tray. I was using Delphi 7 Personal Edition, a copy I got with PC Plus, a magazine I had to
import from the UK, just to get a copy cheap
. However Borland quite prudently in my opinion no longer offers patches to now paying users, so I'd have to buy D7 PE if I wanted to patch it and make a decent stable binary or code in a decent stable IDE for that matter. Delphi 7 kept displaying about 4 error messages in a row while using Find and replace. I'm sure that was one of the first bugs fixed in their usual onslaught of post release fixes. So I reverted to Delphi 6 PE which does allow updates, what I'll loose in features, I hope to gain in stability and lack of frustation. Quote:
Merry X-mas to you and your lady friend... enjoy the time together! That's really what life's about!
Happy new year back! Since XMas is long gone at this point
Yes I do think love and friendship are what life is really about. I am thorougly enjoying my time with Lisa and while at times I wonder whether we are ultimately right for each other, I know that I could probably spend the rest of my life with her and be happy.
Last night I saw this funny add on SourceForge, and their punchline was SourceForge Personals, because you can't code a girlfriend
. I laughed and thought how true that was, and how lucky I consider myself at the moment to have one, since I rarely seem to . My new girlfriend is an environmental lawyer, a vegan (not a raw foodist like me though), tall, thin, fit, and beautiful. She's also kind-hearted, has a positive attitude, intelligent, get's my jokes, and loves to go jogging with me. She's 30 and I'm 24, which some people frown upon, but I don't mind, six years isn't much in the scheme of things.
Well keep your stick on the ice,
Christian Blackburn
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Hello Everybody !!
Well, new to this board and ran across this..I see it's a few years old....so i don't know for sure if anyone even visits here anymore.
Has anyone had any "success" in an actual registry recovery? I have read both pages each post on this topic, and I only see where a "test" was done...but that seemed to be on a working machine.
I've tried everything but this 6 disk deal...Nothing w/Win2k recovery or repair console stuff worked.
fyi...I'm an "old guy" been around since DOS 2.0,and I am "stubborn" !! (laugh)
And the problem I am having is killing me... I could just go buy another drive, and make the corrupted drive a slave...but I want to beat this thing!!
Can't get into safe mode...hangs at "Preparing Network Connections)...and for a month or so before this, it kept saying "Increase your registry size"...but I never did.
Therefore, suspecting something there...as I narraowed down not a memory issue...and have tried all MS site options...except for this.
Any help would sure be appreciated..
Jim
Well, new to this board and ran across this..I see it's a few years old....so i don't know for sure if anyone even visits here anymore.
Has anyone had any "success" in an actual registry recovery? I have read both pages each post on this topic, and I only see where a "test" was done...but that seemed to be on a working machine.
I've tried everything but this 6 disk deal...Nothing w/Win2k recovery or repair console stuff worked.
fyi...I'm an "old guy" been around since DOS 2.0,and I am "stubborn" !! (laugh)
And the problem I am having is killing me... I could just go buy another drive, and make the corrupted drive a slave...but I want to beat this thing!!
Can't get into safe mode...hangs at "Preparing Network Connections)...and for a month or so before this, it kept saying "Increase your registry size"...but I never did.
Therefore, suspecting something there...as I narraowed down not a memory issue...and have tried all MS site options...except for this.
Any help would sure be appreciated..
Jim
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Posted 15 January 2008 - 11:41 PM
Normally you wouldn't want to resurrect an old thread like this but rather start a new one and maybe reference this thread in your attempts to find a solution to your problems
Perhaps a mod/admin can move this to a new thread and I'm sure folks will be able to better respond to this issue.
As for myself, I can't say I've ever really tried to use REGISTRY recovery tools, usually I like to backup data I need, reformat and reinstall the OS.
So another option you may want to try is one of the FREEWARE registry apps that will attempt to remove old and orphaned entries that are no longer valid, this may or may not help.
Perhaps a mod/admin can move this to a new thread and I'm sure folks will be able to better respond to this issue.
As for myself, I can't say I've ever really tried to use REGISTRY recovery tools, usually I like to backup data I need, reformat and reinstall the OS.
So another option you may want to try is one of the FREEWARE registry apps that will attempt to remove old and orphaned entries that are no longer valid, this may or may not help.
No matter where you go, there you are...
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