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How to get the local clipboard function to work?

#1 User is offline   Curley_Boy 

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 09:40 PM

I have 3 PCs on a lan using IPX

1. XP Home SP1
2. NT4 SP6a
3. XP Pro SP1

Now when I load the clipboard viewer on the NT PC I can see both the local and standard clipboard pages. However on both XP PCs only the standard clipboard page shows and all the menu options are greyed out.

Are there any extra services, security polices, windows components, or network protocols that need to be installed for this feature to work?

All user accounts have admin rights and have accounts with the same name and access rights set up on all the other machines.

I haven't touched the security polices or service settings on either the NT4 or XP Home PC. But on my own XP Pro PC I have uninstalled some Windows compoments, disabled some services (but non relating to DDE or Clipboard) and changed some settings in the local security policy (only relating to blank password logon and recovery console though).

Can anyone tell me how to set up this feature properly please? Also features such as remote shutdown and remote registry fail to work as well.
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Posted 25 June 2003 - 10:55 PM

NetDDE and related services are running on both machines but I only get the local clipboard on the NT PC.

Are you sure it doesn't rely on TCP/IP?

I can connect from the NT PC to the XP one via the clipboard, but on both machines most of the menu options are greyed out, so I can't share any information copied to the clipboard anyhow.
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Posted 25 June 2003 - 11:32 PM

This KB article seems to be about as close I can come to finding you a solution

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;103125

Perhaps another search of Microsoft's KB engine maybe in order wink

I don't think it requires that TCP/IP be installed but have you tried it to see?!?
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Posted 27 June 2003 - 10:31 PM

Nope no domain here! laugh Just a mixed OS workgroup

I will try switching the lan over to TCP/IP tempoarily to see if that makes a difference (use IPX for security reasons).

If it is a policy setting is it likely to be a per user or a system wide restriction? In either case which registry keys are involved or do I have to go through group polices? (which to my knowledge I haven't applied).
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Posted 02 July 2003 - 02:36 AM

Well I tried it with TCP and it made no difference frown

I already have admin accounts mirrored on each machine like you suggest so rights shouldn't be a problem.

This looks more like a policy setting as it appears to be a problem on both XP machines when the NT one would work fine.

I also discovered this in the event log, don't know if it would be of any use:

NETDDE

Listen failed: 23: The ncb_lana_num member did not specify a valid network number.
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Posted 02 July 2003 - 04:39 AM

Not sure if this KB article is related but it seems close to me, take a read and see if it is or not.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;317437
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Posted 03 July 2003 - 08:43 AM

I've found that Microsoft has a lot of KB articles and I've tweaked my searches on it and can find most anything related to any of their products. I guess not many like to use their site but hey, they made the OS and so many of the apps that people are asking questions about, so why not go to the source wink
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Posted 04 July 2003 - 11:29 PM

Well it seems I need an updated netbios.sys file for my XP PCs

Since my version does not match the one on the MS Website. Odd I have SP1.

And even if I do manage to get hold of it... how do I overwrite the one in the system32\drivers dir without WFP kicking in? On this PC I can use the recovery console for such functions.. on my parents PC thats not an option.

Any ideas?
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Posted 05 July 2003 - 04:24 AM

If it's a hofix update, then this should take care of this for you wink
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Posted 05 July 2003 - 03:27 PM

The article says it was included in Service Pack 1 for Windows XP (which is what I am running).

But the filesize and version of the one listed on the site does not match the one on my PC.

MS KB: Netbios.sys, 5.1.2600.28 (version) 135,296 (size).

On my PC in <system32\drivers\>: Netbios.sys, 5.1.2600.1106, 33,152.

I checked the version in the servicepackfiles folder against the one in system32\drivers and they are both identical.
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Posted 05 July 2003 - 07:30 PM

You could try re-installing SP1 again, perhaps get the Network install version instead of the quick install version. Be sure you have a fast connection as this is 100MB+ frown
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Posted 05 July 2003 - 10:46 PM

I did have the network install version (I downloaded it on a 56k connection).

Read my above post, the version of the file on my system and the one included in my service pack are the same. But these not the same as the one referenced by Microsoft on their site.
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