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Fastest AMD or VIA Socket 7 CPU that's only 100MHZ FSB?

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Hi I'm trying to find out what kind of a system my friend can upgrade to. I'm sure he can upgrade his Cyrix PR275 to a PR433, however I think AMD might make a faster solution since Cyrix sucks and went out of business. Yes I do know that VIA purchased their assets. Also I should mention that his computer is a Compaq Preario 2266, don't laugh. I know that Compaqs aren't exactly known for being the most upgradeable by my friend is kinda broke so we gotta do the best we can.

Thanks for any and all help regarding this matter,

Christian Blackburn

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SiSoftware Sandra

Entire System
Manufacturer : Compaq
Model : Presario
Version : 82h
Serial Number : 3D8ACDQ9K09B
Unique ID : 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000

System Chassis
Manufacturer : Compaq
Can be locked : No
Version : DSE2
Serial Number : None
Asset Tag Number : No Asset Tag
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe
Security State : External Interface Locked-out

System Mainboard
Manufacturer : Compaq
MP Support : No
Model : 04D0h
Version : X1.0
Serial Number : XX00000000

Memory Controller
Error Detection Method : None
Error Correction Capability : None
Supported/Current Memory Interleave : 1-way / 1-way
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 512MB
Maximum Module Size : 256MB
Supported Memory Types : DIMM
Supported Memory Voltages : 3.3V

Physical/BIOS Memory Banks
Phoenix Technologies Ltd. (RASL-0 RASL-2) : 65536MB FPM Parity ECC SIMM DIMM BEDO double-bank
Compaq : Empty

System Chipset
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597 CPU to PCI Bridge
Bus(es) : ISA PCI USB
L2 External Cache : 512kB pipeline-burst write-back
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 75MHz (75MHz data rate)
Max FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 1x 100MHz / 1x 100MHz

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 Setting : 64MB SDRAM 8-1-1-1R 6-2-2-2W 3-4-4CL
Power Down Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

PCI Bus(es)
Version : 2.10
PCI Bus 0 : 32-bit PCI (38MHz)
Multiplier : 1/2x

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS85C503/5513 PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge)
ACPI PM Enabled : Yes
Random Number Generator Enabled : No
Speed Multiplier : 1/4x
Speed : 10MHz

USB Controller 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
OHCI Interface : Yes
Channels : 2
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

Expansion Slot(s)
ISA Slot ISA1 : ISA 16-bit 5V HalfLength
PCI Slot PCI1 : PCI 32-bit 5V 3.3V FullLength Available
PCI Slot PCI2 : PCI 32-bit 5V 3.3V FullLength InUse

Port Connector(s)
J23 - COM 1 : Serial Port 16550A Compatible - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
J3 - Parallel : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - 25 Pin Dual Inline / DB25 pin female
J9 - Keyboard : Keyboard Port - None / Circular DIN-8 male
J9 - PS/2 Mouse : Keyboard Port - None / Circular DIN-8 male

Performance Tips
Notice N224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip T2505 : System does not support memory error detection. Some memory errors may go unnoticed.
Warning W2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Tip T2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning W2520 : PCI bus speed is too high. Reduce FSB speed or FSB/PCI multiplier.
Tip T2536 : System has no SMBus/i2c/BMB bus support.
Tip T2 : For more information about tips, press F1 and scroll to the Tips section.

SiSoftware Sandra

System BIOS
Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
Version : F0A0
Date : 09/08/98
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.10
ID No. : FC 01 00
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)

General Capabilities
Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes
Can be Shadowed : Yes
Is Socketed : No
Supports Plug & Play : Yes
Supports ESCD : Yes
Supports Enhanced Disk Drive : No
NEC PC-98 Spec Compatible : No

Power Management Capabilities
Supports APM : Yes
Supports ACPI : Yes
Supports Smart Battery : No

Boot Capabilities
Supports Selective Booting : Yes
Supports CD/DVD Boot : Yes
Supports PCMCIA/CardBus Boot : No
Supports LS-120 Boot : No
Supports ZIP Boot : Yes
Supports i2o Boot : No
Supports FireWire/1394 Boot : No

Performance Tips
Tip T201 : System BIOS is old. Check for an update.
Notice N224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip T207 : A SMBIOS/DMI 2.3 or later compliant BIOS is recommended. Check for a BIOS update.
Tip T212 : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is.
Warning W214 : BIOS is flash-able but surface-mounted. An unsuccessful flash may be fatal.
Warning W208 : BIOS does not support the EDD (Enhanced Disk Drive) specification. Check for an update.
Tip T2 : For more information about tips, press F1 and scroll to the Tips section.

SiSoftware Sandra

Processor(s)
Model : VIA/Cyrix 6x86MII
Co-Processor (FPU) : Built-in
Speed : 225MHz
Performance Rating : PR275 (estimated)
Type : Standard
Multiplier : 3x
Generation : 6th (6x86)
Model Information : 6x86MII (M2) PR300-450 2.2/2.9V
Revision/Stepping : 0 / 0 (0 / 8 Cx)

Caches
Internal Unified Cache : 64kB synchronous write-back

Host Interface
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 75MHz (75MHz data rate)

Mainboard Upgradeability
Socket/Slot : U24
Upgrade Interface : ZIF Socket
Supported Speed(s) : 333MHz (or more)
Supported Voltage(s) : 2.2V

Features
Co-Processor (FPU) Built-in : Yes
Virtual Mode Extensions : No
Debugging Extension : Yes
Page Size Extension : No
Time Stamp Counter : Yes
Model Specific Registers : Yes
Physical Address Extension : No
Machine Check Exception : No
Compare & Exchange Instruction : Yes
Local APIC Built-in : No
Fast System Call : No
Memory Type Range Registers : No
Page Global Enable : Yes
Machine Check Architecture : No
Conditional Move Instruction : Yes
Page Attribute Table : No
36-bit Page Size Extension : No
Unique Serial Number : No
Cache Line Flush Support : No
Debug Trace & EMON Store : No
ACPI Technology : No
MMX Technology : Yes
Fast Float Save & Restore : No
SSE Technology : No
SSE2 Technology : No
Self Snoop : No
Hyper-Threading Technology : No
Auto Clock Control : No
IA-64 Technology : No
DAZ Support : No

Advanced Settings

Performance Tips
Warning W2501 : Lack of L2 cache greatly reduces performance. Install some.
Tip T210 : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed.
Notice N224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip T219 : A SSE(2) processor is recommended for modern multimedia applications and games.
Tip T2 : For more information about tips, press F1 and scroll to the Tips section.

SiSoftware Sandra

Computer System
Manufacturer : Compaq
Name : COMPAQ COMPUTER
User Name : Don Larson

Processor(s)
Model : VIA/Cyrix 6x86MII
Speed : 225MHz
Performance Rating : PR275 (estimated)

Mainboard and BIOS
Bus(es) : ISA PCI USB
MP Support : No
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies Ltd. F0A0
Mainboard : Compaq 04D0h
System Chipset : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597 CPU to PCI Bridge
L2 External Cache : 512kB pipeline-burst write-back
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 75MHz (75MHz data rate)
Installed Memory : 60MB SDRAM

Video System
Monitor/Panel : MultiSync 50
Adapter : SiS 5597/5598

Physical Storage Devices
Disk Drive : GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE01
Disk Drive : GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK
CD-ROM/DVD : LITEON CD-ROM LTN301

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : 1MB (0MB, 19% Free) (FAT)
Hard Disk (C:) : 4.0GB (2.9GB, 72% Free) (FAT32)
CD-ROM/DVD (D:) : N/A

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
Mouse : PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive
Device : ES1869 Control Interface
Device : Gameport Joystick

Communication Device(s)
Device : Rockwell HCF 56K Data Fax PCI Modem

Printers and Faxes
Model : Canon Bubble-Jet BJ-200e
Model : Rendering Subsystem
Model : Microsoft Fax
Model : RingCentral Fax

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 98 Ver 4.10.1998
DOS Sub-System : Microsoft MS-DOS Ver 7.10 A

Network Adapter(s)
Networking Installed : No
Adapter : Dial-Up Adapter

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Hi I'm trying to find out what kind of a system my friend can upgrade to. I'm sure he can upgrade his Cyrix PR275 to a PR433, however I think AMD might make a faster solution since Cyrix sucks and went out of business. Yes I do know that VIA purchased their assets. Also I should mention that his computer is a Compaq Preario 2266, don't laugh. I know that Compaqs aren't exactly known for being the most upgradeable by my friend is kinda broke so we gotta do the best we can.
Thanks for any and all help regarding this matter,
Christian Blackburn


I may be mistaken, but I think that the AMD K6+ could be had at 550mhz. Try ebay... these aren't real expensive now:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll...mp;BasicSearch=

Also think about maxing out the memory.

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Are you sure he can upgrade to a PR433? just looking around the net on this chipset (sis5597) it looks like it only supports up to 75Mhz bus (83 unofficially). Your friend might be maxed or close to it unfortunately.

 

Couple places I've looked...

http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/19970101-1/chipset-13.html

http://wmheg.physics.wm.edu/~norman/cpu_info/chipsets.html

http://www.hwupgrade.com/chipset/sis5597.html

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Are you sure he can upgrade to a PR433? just looking around the net on this chipset (sis5597) it looks like it only supports up to 75Mhz bus (83 unofficially). Your friend might be maxed or close to it unfortunately.


I don't think he can do anything except add memory. You're right, this is probably a lose lose frown

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whoops... got ahead of myself there. Looks like you can only do a K6 not a K6-2 the bus stops at 300Mhz if thats the case frown

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Hi Guys,

I want to thank everyone for replying. I really appreciate it even if the news sucks for my friend. You see he bought Dragon Natural Speaking 8 and I guess it requires a 400MHZ CPU and he has a 225MHZ Cyrix. I'm sure he would gladly accept and or purchase your CPU if it were 75MHZ FSB, but I think your 550 is 100MHZ bus which won't work, but thanks for the offer.

Alec that was really nice of you to part with your system at a value price. I assume you sold the Voodoo card? That's probably a great glide card. Admitedly I haven't tried any of the emulators yet. I still have one of my Voodoo 2's in my closet just in case (I gave the other [used to have SLI] to my nephews and nieces). Did you play any good glide games back in the day? I used to buy a new video card about once a year and would always buy a good one that game with an excellent game bundle. People were always so stupid and would pay up for faster RAM in their cards that would yield a 2-5 percent increase in performance and cost 20-40% extra smile. I on the other hand would buy based on what a particular video card came bundled with. I mean if you're going to buy a reference design from 3DFX or NVidia it really doesn't make that big of a difference who manufactured it. Although, I'm sure some companies did a better job than others. I think I bought a Hercules Voodoo Rush (the first one that really sucked :(, Monster 3d (I complained and traded my Rush 3DFX chip in for the card), 2 Creative Labs Voodoo2's, a Matrox Millenium G200 for video only (I kept the SLI setup for games), and currently I have a GeForce 2 MX, and don't really play games anymore. I find programming to be more intriguing. Although maybe twice a month I play a game for about 30 minutes, but that's it. I'm glad I've conquered that addiction smile.

Adios Amigos and Thanks Again,

Christian

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Hi Alec,

Yes programming is the bomb. It's a hoot being able to have control over aspect of system and or application behavior. You're absolutely right I suppose the biggest test of a "good" program from a programmer's standpoint is would they themselves use it and more so would they choose to use their application over the competition?

So long Amigo,

Christian

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Also I know I downloaded and tried your 3DFX tuner a long time ago. I think I opted to manage my settings in the autoexec.bat manually though. Was your application shareware or freeware? Your 1-2 percent metric doesn't really suprise me. The biggest reason for that in my opinion is simply that it's just to easy to pirate software and or find freeware alternatives.

So Long,

Christian

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