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2K Routing help needed

#1 User is offline   waddy 

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Posted 27 January 2003 - 01:28 AM

Setup:

DSL router : 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
2Kserver 1 : 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.0

2K server 2 NIC 1 : 10.10.0.1 255.0.0.0
2K server NIC 2 : 10.10.10.9 255.255.255.0

Obviously i can get internet etc from workstations and server on network 1. Same Net.

I can get internet from 2Kserver 2, ping all the PC's and router on network 10.10.10.0.

But from the workstations i cant get internet. I can ping router and other network, not google.

Added ip route 10.10.0.0 255.255.0.0 10.10.10.9 to the router , which allowed the communication between networks etc.

Here is a route print from 2K server 2 (which can get internet)


Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x1000003 ...00 0a e6 3d c8 85 ...... SiS NIC SISNIC
0x1000004 ...00 80 c8 27 f2 d1 ...... Intel DC21140 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.10.10.1 10.10.10.9 1
10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 10.10.0.1 10.10.0.1 1
10.10.0.1 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.10.9 10.10.10.9 1
10.10.10.9 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
10.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.10.0.1 10.10.0.1 1
10.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.10.10.9 10.10.10.9 1
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 10.10.0.1 10.10.0.1 1
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 10.10.10.9 10.10.10.9 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.10.0.1 10.10.0.1 1
Default Gateway: 10.10.10.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None

Is there a route i have to add for the workstations to get internet ?

Route print from workstations:

===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x1000003 ...00 0a e6 3d 82 58 ...... SiS NIC SISNIC
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.10.0.1 10.10.0.3 1
10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 10.10.0.3 10.10.0.3 1
10.10.0.3 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
10.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.10.0.3 10.10.0.3 1
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 10.10.0.3 10.10.0.3 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.10.0.3 10.10.0.3 1
Default Gateway: 10.10.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None

Anyone know what route i need to add to win2K server2 to allow the workstations to get internet ?

I have spent hours on this and cant seem to crack it
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Posted 27 January 2003 - 06:39 AM

If there is a default gateway on the inside NIC, remove it. In past my experiences, removing this address forced packets to be routed out the Outside NIC.
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Posted 27 January 2003 - 11:38 PM

Thanks for the input guys.

I removed the gateway from NIC1 (internal NIC) no luck frown

I tried the outside NIC as gateway and the router also, no change.

The server can see shares etc from the other network.

What i cant understand is the workstations can ping the other network workstations and DSL router, but not get internet packets back to them.

Also noticed that the workstations cant see the other domain Controller or workstations in Microsoft Windows Network.

Cheers for the help
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 12:36 AM

Hmmm

As long as you have enabled and configured RRAS for 2000 Server (through the RRAS MMC snapin), I dont see a need to use the registry key .... http://www.swynk.com/friends/shinder/ip_forwarding.asp .

Then again, have you enabled IP forwarding in the registry. *shakes head* The reghack should be a global setting. I believe it operates dymanically.

You are of course correct in establishing that IP forwarding is needed for IP communciction across multiple subnets.

If you experiencing the inability to browse your network, all the more reason to suspect that its an incorrect gateway.

Quote:
Setup:

DSL router : 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
2Kserver 1 : 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.0

2K server 2 NIC 1 : 10.10.0.1 255.0.0.0
2K server NIC 2 : 10.10.10.9 255.255.255.0

Obviously i can get internet etc from workstations and server on network 1. Same Net.

I can get internet from 2Kserver 2, ping all the PC's and router on network 10.10.10.0.

But from the workstations i cant get internet. I can ping router and other network, not google.

Added ip route 10.10.0.0 255.255.0.0 10.10.10.9 to the router , which allowed the communication between networks etc.


Are those subnet masks correct?? I am seeing Class A, B, and C in there ...

Links:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q140859
(TCPIP Routing Basic)

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q157025
(Default Gateway Configs for MultiHomed PC)
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 12:39 AM

Then again, with the IP Forwarding, here is an article contradicting the other one that I posted ...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/...eForwarding.htm

Now look what you are gonna make me do .... tonight I will be up playing on my test working and looks like building a win2k server router laugh :p
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Posted 28 January 2003 - 01:00 AM

No problem about the links

Still, I am not exactly pleased with the 2 articles, posting 2 answers ....

LMHOSTS works well as long, as they can relate the name to the IP smile

I am also not very confident with his ROUTE PRINT either ... again, I am not there, but I dont see a reason for all his different classes.
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