[pgrosso]

Hi, i have a problem installing my paralell port Iomega Zip 250 in Windows NT 4 with SP6. When i try to install any driver (from Iomega Site or any other site), the installation freeze in "Updating the Registry" step.
I kill process from Task Manager, but the problem now is when a try to access to the "Scsi Adapters" in Control Panel. When i focus in "Driver" tab, i receive the next message: "Error occurred getting driver list from inf file. Error=0".

I'd try the Microsoft Technet Solution published in Micrsoft's Web Page, but i haven't good results.

Can somebody help me.

[Christianb]

First off Iomega sucks and I would never recommending buying or using any of their products for anything, but a paperweight. That being said I would uninstall whatever driver you tried to use and then install the most recent drivers available at Iomega's website. Furthermore why are you still using NT 4 get Windows 2000 already. It's faster, it's more stable and if you have a Pentium 2 or better with 256 megs of ram or more I think you'll agree.
-Christian

[BladeRunner]

[pgrosso]

[BladeRunner]

Ouch!
30 minutes to update a driver, I have never seen anything take that long.
Seems there is probably something else wrong somewhere with your system - however you are up and running now and that is the main thing.

[Christianb]

Hi BladeRunner,
There are tons of articles about the "Click of Death", "Promissed free Technical Support and then charging for it", and creating a SCSI/Parallel device that isn't truly SCSI compliant, because unlike other SCSI devices it must be the only device on the chain instead of working compatibly with 15 other devices like every other SCSI product out there". Aciddenlty, stepping on my parallel port zip drive was the best thing that ever happened to it . Okay actually I wish I still had it for compatiblity reasons, but it'd probably just sit in my closet collecting dust any how. Also their drivers are unstable, and slow down the display of My Computer with their cutesy icons. The zip drive icon could simply be embedded in Explorer.exe, but they're too stupid and possibly afraid of the legal implications of doing so. In fact if you search this messageboard I'm sure you can find information about all of this, because it's come up before.
-Christian

[webe123]

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Hi BladeRunner,
There are tons of articles about the "Click of Death", "Promissed free Technical Support and then charging for it", and creating a SCSI/Parallel device that isn't truly SCSI compliant, because unlike other SCSI devices it must be the only device on the chain instead of working compatibly with 15 other devices like every other SCSI product out there". Aciddenlty, stepping on my parallel port zip drive was the best thing that ever happened to it ). Okay actually I wish I still had it for compatiblity reasons, but it'd probably just sit in my closet collecting dust any how. Also their drivers are unstable, and slow down the display of My Computer with their cutesy icons. The zip drive icon could simply be embedded in Explorer.exe, but they're too stupid and possibly afraid of the legal implications of doing so. In fact if you search this messageboard I'm sure you can find information about all of this, because it's come up before.
-Christian

Well I have an iomega zip 100 internal ATAPI drive in my computer NOW and it works great! Has for YEARS! Now that win xp has come out, it has the drivers for it on win xp! Now I don't know about their SCSI drives, never owned one, but I CAN say that this drive I have is a VERY reliable drive. I wouldn't call a WHOLE LINE of a companies products crap, unless you know what you are talking about!

[adamvjackson]

I personally have owned one zip drive, years ago, a parallel port zip-100, and I never had any problems, but I have had a few of my friends' drives have the "click of death".

[philbarnes]

i'd like to concur with webe123 - my zip100 works fine under xp and has given me no trouble ever. unlike my favourite device ever the 3.5" floppy...

[Christianb]

[BladeRunner]

"Class Action" Hummm, well that is new, I mean, it is every day in the US somebody decides to do something like this.
It is just a matter of course and doesn't actually prove anything.

The part about "ZIP Plus" not being SCSI.
Well this is actually a fault of the SCSI controllers.
A lot of SCSI cards have issues when you chain both internal and external devices together.
If you read through the Adaptec documentation you'll see this is listed as an issue - If you've got an Internal SCSI chain then you'll only be able to use one external device or in some cases no external devices on the same controller.

I've owned 3 ZIP drives (1x Parallel Port, 1x IDE Internal 1x SCSI Internal) and I'll add that to the numerous ZIP drives I've used at various places or work and I'm still yet to see one fail.

[Christianb]

Hi BladeRunner,
Well it sounds like I learne something new about the SCSI interface, but I am still not sure I agree that IOmega isn't still at fault. What you are describing sounds like a heterogenous chain issue, but even if you had a dedicated external chain there can only be one device on it, the Zip Minus, so no SCSI scanners, printers, or other drives.

My Dad was backing up his computer and 10/12 disks failed that was a 200 dollar media problem. Not mention that the drive had the click of death so that adds about another 120 to the issue. Making it a 320 dollar failure. I had an Epson Parrallel zip and aside from being ungodly slow it suffered the click of death too after my dad innocently mailed me a disk from Cali with family photos on it. I was living in WA at the time. Not only that, but Zip disks are low density HD platters and are highly fragile and volitile, because they're magnetic. That's why everyone has switched to optical media, although I will definetly admit that price was the biggest motivator IOmega got greedy. Greed has destroyed more companies than I care to remember. Ever heard of NextOS or OS/2? Who's using them now? Darn near nobody.
-Christian

[Christianb]

In any event I think we're both arguing a moot point. Zip Drives are over. Thank God!
-Christian