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Hi guys.i have a question for the board,i have cable connection,and 2 pc's 2 IP's,in the past i have always used a 10/100 HUB with seeminlgy no problems..but in the last 4-5 months my cable provider has really put the screws on us (att)and capped us hard..hence.when both pc's access the net it slows both down..if im gaming online..and daughter opens a site.my ping goes from 30-40ms to 200ms and laggy as hell..the cable guy tells me my problem is that i have a hub,that i need a switch..and to set both NICS in pc's to 10 instead of auto sens..i bought the switch.is he correct?? should i mess with NIC settings as well??..from what i read about switches,he was correct..the swicth will clear any bottlenecks for sure..thx in advance:D
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what settings for NIC ?
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Posted 14 May 2002 - 06:42 AM
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Posted 14 May 2002 - 08:47 PM
A switch would probably be the way to go in your situation...
It's too bad the Cable company know you have two machines hanging off your connection... You could have saved yourself a bit of money by only having one IP and using a router (which in most cases include a switch) which would allow you to share the one IP between the two machines and have a hardware firewall protecting the whole network as opposed to having to run a software firewall on both machines.
That might still be a possibillity but the Cable company might suspect somethings up when you decide to give up the second IP...
It's too bad the Cable company know you have two machines hanging off your connection... You could have saved yourself a bit of money by only having one IP and using a router (which in most cases include a switch) which would allow you to share the one IP between the two machines and have a hardware firewall protecting the whole network as opposed to having to run a software firewall on both machines.
That might still be a possibillity but the Cable company might suspect somethings up when you decide to give up the second IP...
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Posted 14 May 2002 - 10:17 PM
Thx for your replay..i got the switch yesterday..webpages and shared files seem to be somewhat quicker..but i still have the problem of when one machine is doing something bandwidth intensive.the other machine laggs badly..i thought the whole idea of a switch was to distribute the bandwidth equally among the 2..
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Posted 14 May 2002 - 11:05 PM
Switches don't help in your case, since the incoming bandwidth is probably 1.5Mbps or less and the switch you bought is probably at least 10Mbps per port (more like 100Mbps), and the hub was already a 10/100 unit that could share such low requirements anyway. Also, switches tend to have a little higher ping when there is low utilization than hubs in the first place, so your ping issue wouldn't be addressed in the first place (unless it's a high dollar unit).
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Posted 15 May 2002 - 06:27 AM
The advantage of a switch over a hub is that on a switch each port has the max amount of bandwidth allowed, i.e. a 8 port 10/100 switch has 8 ports that transfer data at 100mb each. Also a switch has the ability to go full duplex at a transfer rate of 200 mb for each port.
A hub shares the bandwidth with all the ports, i.e a 8 port 10/100 hub would share the same bandwidth of 100 mb across the entire hub. That is just a little over 12 mbs for each port.
As for ATT they suck. I would not listen to a word they say. I have gone left and right over my connection and it stil does not have the same speed that it had when I first got it hooked up. I went from about 2mb to 875k speed in a 5 month period. I have complained to them and they gave me a bunch of BS. ATT will not use dynamic routing and they send you to jam packed routers and this drops your connection. The only reason that I am still on ATT is because where I live the only option I have is 56k or ISDN. DSL is not here yet but I understand that it will be here in the next year. ATT has the monoploy in this area for high speed access and controls it with a iron fist. They are a bunch of network nazis if you ask me.
A hub shares the bandwidth with all the ports, i.e a 8 port 10/100 hub would share the same bandwidth of 100 mb across the entire hub. That is just a little over 12 mbs for each port.
As for ATT they suck. I would not listen to a word they say. I have gone left and right over my connection and it stil does not have the same speed that it had when I first got it hooked up. I went from about 2mb to 875k speed in a 5 month period. I have complained to them and they gave me a bunch of BS. ATT will not use dynamic routing and they send you to jam packed routers and this drops your connection. The only reason that I am still on ATT is because where I live the only option I have is 56k or ISDN. DSL is not here yet but I understand that it will be here in the next year. ATT has the monoploy in this area for high speed access and controls it with a iron fist. They are a bunch of network nazis if you ask me.
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Posted 15 May 2002 - 08:31 AM
uboofer,you hit the nail on the head..i told the sap its because they capped me so freakin tight..i went from 6-7 mb downs and 5xx k up(actual upload speeds showed 120k in browser)down to 1.5 and 129k thats when i started having the problems i am now..i can get dsl.but i dont know if it will be any faster,altho i live only like 2 city blocks away from swicth station...
but your right,they rule the bandwidth..and are tighter than dicks hatban
but your right,they rule the bandwidth..and are tighter than dicks hatban
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Posted 15 May 2002 - 05:01 PM
You know what else sucks. ATT also quit supporting M$ Frontpage. How can they just decide to quit supporting one of the most popular website editors? I have confronted this with them and they just blew me off. Once DSL is in my area I will be moving to DSL.
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Posted 15 May 2002 - 07:30 PM
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How can they just decide to quit supporting one of the most popular website editors?
Maybe they're doing it for the greater good... Frontpage blows goats and the web will be much better off if everyone quit using it.
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Posted 15 May 2002 - 09:34 PM
I imagine that they just canned support for FrontPage server extensions, and that only kills some of the more "enhanced" features (like subweb creation/management, and simplified publishing) and would drop the support of some of the drag and drop gizmos that FPSE supports (like the included hitcounter). I would just say use the FTP function in FrontPage, and if the servers are still NT-based then just write the code a lot of the plugin stuff in ASP (or ASP.NET if supported).
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Posted 15 May 2002 - 11:20 PM
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Frontpage blows goats and the web will be much better off if everyone quit using it.
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Why? It could be worse, @ least it's not made by Adobe. Now GoLive, there's a prog that knows how to really satisfy your average affection-starved goat!
Have you ever seen the code FrontPage produces? It can barely be called HTML...
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Have you ever seen the code FrontPage produces? It can barely be called HTML...
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