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#1 Scout

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Posted 05 December 2002 - 07:10 PM

Hello i was courious to know exactly what nvidia card your using and how you decide what drivers to download?

I am new to linux and am currently running 8.0 and seem to be having some problems with my video card (PNY GFORCE4 TI4400) and display settings. I.E. When i change my display settings to any other setting then 16 bit color and 800x600 and reboot (log_on/log_off) X fails to load.

I have also heard that Red Hat is not friendly with the Nforce chip set is there any truth to this?

Apperciate the intell
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Posted 05 December 2002 - 07:37 PM

I have the Visiontek GeForce 3 and my motherboard is of the nforce chipset. I've never had any problems from any distro. Your problem sounds to me like you didn't set up your monitor frequencies correctly when you setup X. Check the manufacturer site for details involving horizontal and vertical refresh rates. If during setup you didn't specify the correct values, when you try to change the resolution it might not work. Also get the drivers from nvidia's website, and get the tar.gz files instead of the .rpm packages. Follow the doc's on nvidia's site and let me know if you still have issues.

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 02:47 AM

Thanks for the info i was able to get control of my resoultion settings but still can not change from 16 bit to 24 bit color any change to this fails to launch X any suggestions

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 04:02 AM

send me a copy of your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and I can take a look at it for you.

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 04:35 AM

so how would i find this file? i am new sorry
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Posted 06 December 2002 - 09:40 AM

Just use the path that he posted (/etc/X11/XF86Config). The last part is the file itself, XF86Config. The file might also be named XF86Config-4.

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 02:48 PM

ok thanks again this is what i found but not sure if its the right one but i am trying hard and learning fast


# XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

Section "Files"
# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "fbdevhw"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
# Option "XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
#
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
Identifier "DevInputMice"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Hitachi CM751"
HorizSync 31.0 - 94.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
ModeLine "1400x1050" 129.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync
ModeLine "1400x1050" 151.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync
ModeLine "1400x1050" 162.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync
ModeLine "1400x1050" 184.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "vesa"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
VideoRam 131072
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Modes "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection

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Posted 07 December 2002 - 03:13 AM

Well.....

Your first issue is if your not going to install the drivers from nvidia's site, your driver section should look like the following:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nv"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
VideoRam 131072
EndSection

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Posted 07 December 2002 - 04:05 AM

If this is the case then i am sure i have other problems because when ever i change the driver to anything other then vesa X fails to start and i am back to square one.
Now after i installed

(edfile:/home/HALO/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.rh73up_2.4.18_10.i686.rpm)

and then

(file:/home/HALO/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-3123.tar.gz)

i was only at that point able to assign my mointior and resoultion settings. i am still unable to change to 24 bit color without x failing.

I found this link http://www.linuxiso....opic.php?t=1959 and tried what it suggested prior to my searching for help here.

Once again thanks for the help
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FYI this folder is empty "/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386".[/b]

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Posted 07 December 2002 - 05:22 AM

you should really use the NVIDIA-kernel.tar.gz file instead of the rpms. Like the first post there says. Also at the end of the XF86Config-4 file where it says:

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection


You should comment this section out also....
Here's a copy of my XF86Config-4.....

### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root. Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
# Load "GLcore"
Load "bitmap"
Load "dbe"
Load "ddc"
# Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "pex5"
Load "record"
Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
Load "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "NvAGP" "1"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
HorizSync 30-85
VertRefresh 50-160
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

#Section "DRI"
# Mode 0666
#EndSection

### END DEBCONF SECTION

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Posted 07 December 2002 - 09:10 AM

Hello just wanted to say thanks for the help i follwed the second suggestion on the link above and was able to get the driver to work weither or not the card is running at top speed or not i am not sure.

So now want to help get my zip drive working?

Once again Thanks
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Posted 07 December 2002 - 05:06 PM

To check 3d performance just open up a terminal window and type :

glxgears

You should get a fps of at least 2000. What is the issue with your zip drive???

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Posted 07 December 2002 - 05:18 PM

its not there im useing a ZIP 100 USB

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Posted 08 December 2002 - 03:33 AM

sorry can't help you there. If you would have said internal or parallel, maybe but I think you might want to start with making sure usb-mass storage is enabled in your kernel.

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Posted 10 December 2002 - 08:34 PM

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its not there im useing a ZIP 100 USB

thanks Scout


Well, I'm not sure how to do it in KDE, as the only times I was able to get the OS to boot, it knew where it was to begin with-- tragically, it got hosed
\(damn NVIDIA motherboards--not yet ready for use with Linux, or vice-versa- me thinks, though others might disagree).

However, from the console, it's pretty easy. Make sure you exit out of any chroot's or mounts, PUT A DISK IN THE DRIVE and type: "modprobe usb-storage". Then mount to /mnt and/or chroot /mnt. You should have a zip directory already in your /mnt dir, otherwise mkdir one. Then type: "mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip" you should now be able to go to /mnt/zip and read your disk. Incidentally, if you have an Iomega Peerless USB drive, it's usually seen as sdb4. I'm not sure why, but Linux sees USB storage devices as SCSI devices, either way - it works! should the sda/b4 not work, try other #'s, but I've seen it consistantly choose the # 4 for both of my drives in Mandrake 9 and RH8.

Hope that helps,
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Posted 11 December 2002 - 11:22 PM

well i tried what you suggested but it didnt work i dont think its even finding my usb ports
thanks for the tip send more if you got them

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